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Upgrades to pirate installs of windows....only in China?
Hmmm
If they cannot persuade users in China to be honest, they may as well try to get some return by selling cloud services to them (as well as avoiding prolonging the problems that they now have where they are forced to provide free security updates for pirated copies of XP in China).Quote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
are they still offering free upgrades to windows 8 users?
So yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Article
teach me not to read it properly
I like to price
I'll upgrade if I can actually upgrade, my win 8 rigs won't go to win 8.1...
I'm also curious if I'll be able to upgrade win 7 without it being installed, suppose I can wait till it's released to find out.
Hope there is a clean install upgrade option
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Originally Posted by LSG501
What we've been told so far (TechRadar, Tom's Hardware) seems to suggest that a clean install option should be available to all users but Windows 7/8/8.1 users should also be able to upgrade to 10 directly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis_iii
Source (regarding the upgrade path, at least) -- from Gabriel Aul's Twitter.
It's not so much the clean install I'm curious over (that will likely be there like win 8), it's more a case of I've got 'spare' win 7 licenses which I can use to get a free copy of win 10, they're just not actually on a computer at the moment so that's why I'm curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by D-T
I see VentureBeat supposedly have confirmation that everyone can upgrade from a pirate version of Windows for the first year.....
If true, hows that for buying market share? :confused:
I'm using an enterprise key for 8.1 from work, wonder if I'll be able to update even if work isn't interested.
Hmm, not sure how they will handle MAKs......I know that MAKs have historically been exempt from upgrades (unless upgrading with media and a new key)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dooms
I just hope the KMS emulators get updated in a swift manor ;)
If not I'm sure there will be some way of installing Chinese windows 7 and upgrade it for free :PQuote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/18/mi...tes-worldwide/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dooms
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“Correct; anyone in the world with a qualified device can upgrade a pirated copy of Windows to Windows 10,”
This will surely alienate everyone who's bought a proper copy - who will now wonder what the point was, if Microsoft are going to reward those who didn't.
A better strategy might be to offer Windows 10 free to everyone in the first 6 months or whatever? That way it doesn't seem like they're singling out pirates for special treatment (and they're offering free upgrades to everyone else anyway so I doubt it would cost them significantly more).
They could easily exclude enterprise editions/use which I expect they are excluding anyway.
Which at launch, will be pretty much no-one: for the first year, everyone with a copy of Windows 7 or 8 (prior to this, it would be everyone with a legitimate copy of 7 or 8) get 10 for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by miniyazz
Maybe MS has invented a way of checking if your OS is legit before you can download.Quote:
Originally Posted by miniyazz
DOH! further reading on the net and it's an amnesty for pirates.
I'm still waiting on the pricing strategy.
For instance, quite what does "free for first 12 months" mean?
One possibility is that the 'free upgrade' is really a 12 month trial, after which it's buy it or lose it? Though, IIRC, they said something about it being a perpetual licence.
Another possibility is that after 12 months, upgrading will be chargeable. In which case, how much?
And, are they sliding further down the slope of monthly rental, a ia Office 365?
I'm not even going to consider upgrading until that becomes much clearer, and even if I then do, it's going to depend on other things, like just how integrated MS cloud services are, because I have zero interest in those, and on whether the final production code allows to me avoid the horrible Win8 UI kludge.
Frankly, I'm .... ho-hum .... about Win10. MS lost me, for the most part, with W8 and my jury is still out about Win10, or just sticking with Win7 (and, yes, XP on some machines) and taking newer machines wholly Linux. That will depend entirely on the whole package of the above issues.
Ah, sorry, I skimmed over the 'without it being installed' in your original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSG501
It sounds like all Windows licence keys (even ones used illegitimately) are going to be eligible for the free upgrade.
I would think a Win 7 key and the relevant Windows setup .iso files -- which are straight-forward enough to get hold of -- should be all you'd need to claim & install a genuine copy of Windows 10. With a Windows 7/8/8.1 key and the free-upgrade policy, I imagine Microsoft will probably enable you to download 10 directly from the store.
Something I read was:- Although pirates can download win 10....illegal copies (of win7&8) will not get support from MS, so MS must know which are genuine and those that are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-T
Not sure why they just don't make it a free download for personal use, would resolve all these ifs and buts and it basically what they are doing anyway.
It would make them look very good instead of confusing :P
The statement I saw was that yes, ALL WIn7 and Win8.x installations, legitimate or not, can update using the free-for-a-year option BUT any installation "not considered genuine" before the update will still be considered not genuine after it. What's not (to me, anyway) entirely clear is what that implies. Yes, they won't be eligible for support, etc, but will MS still consider going after "pirate" users? NOT that they seem to be very active doing that at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by excalibur2
If, as seems likely, MS are moving away from using Windows as an income stream to a strategy of getting maximum users on Windows, but "monetising" in other ways, like add-on services (Cloud, whatever) and Win-based products (Office, or whatever) then allowing all users, including pirates, to semi-legitimise makes sense. ......
IF.