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    Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    And Microsoft may be making a tool to convert your 'droid into a Windows mobile.
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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    How will people know if their android tablet/phone has UEFI 2.3.1? Or their GPU will do DX9?

    The resolution limited by system RAM is a bit odd as well........3GB RAM for 2560x1600? 4GB for anything above?
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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    I guess the big question is how well it will run with 1/2gb of memory.

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    I guess the big question is how well it will run with 1/2gb of memory.
    It'll be like greased lightning

    At 320x240

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    I wonder if the TPM is a requirement for installation, or as with Windows 8.1 (since January), only required for hardware certification?

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Desktop windows PCs, [snip] Devices must use the UEFI 2.3.1 firmware interface and a Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
    Have i missed something obvious here, for that surely rules out the majority of PC desktops?
    Even those with an UEFI BIOS are unlikely to have a TPM module.

    What about perfectly adequate PCs, like mine, which still have the old style BIOS?
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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    The resolution limited by system RAM is a bit odd as well........3GB RAM for 2560x1600? 4GB for anything above?
    Makes sense if you think about it, much lower spec onboard-GPU hardware uses system RAM for the GPU, so system memory requirements will rise alongside the resolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian224 View Post
    I wonder if the TPM is a requirement for installation, or as with Windows 8.1 (since January), only required for hardware certification?
    Ah, that'd make more sense if the latter is the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by failquail View Post
    Makes sense if you think about it, much lower spec onboard-GPU hardware uses system RAM for the GPU, so system memory requirements will rise alongside the resolution.
    Not really, my SGTP4 is 1600p and 2GB RAM. Running Android it has well over 1GB free RAM while on the desktop (CM12).
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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by failquail View Post
    Desktop windows PCs, [snip] Devices must use the UEFI 2.3.1 firmware interface and a Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
    Have i missed something obvious here, for that surely rules out the majority of PC desktops?
    Even those with an UEFI BIOS are unlikely to have a TPM module.

    What about perfectly adequate PCs, like mine, which still have the old style BIOS?
    I was thinking the same. the technical preview works on ancient devices. I just installed a copy at the weekend on an old dell

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Kikatek have TPM modules for certain boards for £7 for those feeling nervous

    I'd be surprised if Windows required one (and UEFI) to run though.....but that would be one way to slim down the number of "qualifying devices"
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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Kikatek have TPM modules for certain boards for £7 for those feeling nervous

    I'd be surprised if Windows required one (and UEFI) to run though.....but that would be one way to slim down the number of "qualifying devices"
    As far as I know, the Asus 3.19 module is TPM 1.2 whilst Windows 8.1 hardware certification requires TPM 2.0.

    Hopefully, the TPM requirement will be for certified systems only, and all it will mean for the rest of us is a restriction on Bitlocker.

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian224 View Post
    I wonder if the TPM is a requirement for installation, or as with Windows 8.1 (since January), only required for hardware certification?
    I could see UEFI becoming a general PC requirement sometime in the near future but I doubt we'd see TPM as an absolute requirement as that rules out the majority of current consumer hardware, it'd certainly be longer away than UEFI, there are many UEFI capable systems out there lacking a TPM or TPM header (mine included).

    "Devices must use the UEFI 2.3.1 firmware interface and a Trusted Platform Module (TPM)." implies that requirement applies to mobile devices only at this time, I think this is just a certification thing.

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Kikatek have TPM modules for certain boards for £7 for those feeling nervous
    You still need a header to stick it on and to my recent surprise my Asus Z68 board lacks one - I'm so used to seeing them in business PCs and even ITX boards I didn't even think to check before buying the module. Requiring a TPM to install Windows 10 would be a huge mistake, I think the requirement is for new hardware certification only and it really is about time all consumer hardware (especially laptops/tablets) came with one built-in, Bitlocker enabled by default wouldn't be a bad thing either.

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    The installing Windows over Android is an interesting line to cross. Will Google now come out with packs for installing Android on Nokia devices?

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    The installing Windows over Android is an interesting line to cross. Will Google now come out with packs for installing Android on Nokia devices?
    The issue I see is each release will be 'official' not a custom ROM like works for android currently. This is going to be very select handsets as they won't be able to offer Windows 10 for Samsung S6 when unlocking the bootloader is both not idiot proof and voids warranty but they can do it for the Chinese phones which are already unlocked.

    They could release Windows 10 for the OnePlus One for example as they fully endorse changing the rom on it.

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    Re: Windows 10 desktop and mobile minimum hardware spec revealed

    It's still Windows. No need to spend too much for 2001 repackaged OS. I wonder were I can get a 800x600 monitor?

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