AMD may have revealed Windows 10 launch date in earnings call

[HEXUS]

And will be talking about its next gen graphics range "later this quarter".

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[yeeeeman]

GTA 5 would benefit a lot from this DX12 goodness. A dual core would become more than capable to keep up with the quads. Only hopes...
Later edit: The confidence of these CEOs is almost always bull****: "products to take a strong position in the second half of the year". Yeah, if you take into consideration the fact that the target performance they aim has been already ocupied by nvidia with the Titan X and the fact that already a good number of potential customers have bought a Titan, I don't think they will switch to a 390X, if it comes to market 3-4 months later. So, for short, those are lost buyers, doctor Lisa Su.

[GuidoLS]

It's possible that W10 may show up at the end of July, but I don't think it's likely. It's close - very close, but still not quite there. If I were a betting person, I'd aim more for the end of Q3 (September) than the beginning (July). I could be wrong (it wouldn't be the first time) but so far, Spartan still isn't ready for prime time, and DX12 hasn't seen much, if any, wide spread usage in the wild.

And, as per usual, we'll see what, if anything, AMD pulls out of their hat. Hopefully it's not another incremental GPU advance at the expense of their CPU market. Again...

[Xlucine]

GTA 5 would benefit a lot from this DX12 goodness. A dual core would become more than capable to keep up with the quads. Only hopes...
Later edit: The confidence of these CEOs is almost always bull****: "products to take a strong position in the second half of the year". Yeah, if you take into consideration the fact that the target performance they aim has been already ocupied by nvidia with the Titan X and the fact that already a good number of potential customers have bought a Titan, I don't think they will switch to a 390X, if it comes to market 3-4 months later. So, for short, those are lost buyers, doctor Lisa Su.

There's got to be loads of people put off the titan X with the ~£850 price tag - something with that much performance and a reasonable price tag will sell a lot better than titan does.

[Agrippa]

Indeed. I'd very much like a card with that kind of performance, and I could also afford a Titan X, but there's no way in hell I'd spend £850 on *any* video card. Particularly one that includes twice as much memory as I will ever need within the time span in which I'm likely to own it, presumably with the sole purpose of inflating the card's price. No thanks, I'll wait for a 980Ti vs 390X shoot-out and decide from there.

[crossy]

It's possible that W10 may show up at the end of July, but I don't think it's likely. It's close - very close, but still not quite there. If I were a betting person, I'd aim more for the end of Q3 (September) than the beginning (July). I could be wrong (it wouldn't be the first time) but so far, Spartan still isn't ready for prime time, and DX12 hasn't seen much, if any, wide spread usage in the wild.

I'm with you on the September launch - mainly because launching a new OS for summer seems a little strange. Unless, or course, the CFO's office is getting worried...
I'm not convinced that lack of Spartan would be a show-stopper for a launch anyway. Last time I checked (and I'm quite willing to be wrong about this) it wasn't an essential part of W10 - more a "jam tomorrow" future-face-of-Windows type thing.
Actually on a personal note I'd be happier with a launch sooner rather than later mainly because my Win7 setup is now getting very unstable. So I think time has come for the usual Windows re-install nausea (am I the only one who thinks INI files would be preferable datastores to that damnable registry?). But, I'm thinking that reinstalling Win7 for only a couple of months use is maybe a lot of effort - and maybe it'd be worth holding off and doing a fresh W10 install instead.
And of course getting a copy of W8.1 in the meantime is a distinct non-starter... (before someone suggests it)

And, as per usual, we'll see what, if anything, AMD pulls out of their hat. Hopefully it's not another incremental GPU advance at the expense of their CPU market. Again...

+1 on this. I'm starting to despair of seeing anything ground breaking in the discrete CPU market from AMD. Heck, I'd even settle for a warmed over FX line at the moment - preferably one that didn't have a sky high TDP. But at the moment, disk space is my big problem (lack of!) rather than cpu horse power.

[DanceswithUnix]

Smooth work Lisa breaking NDA, shall look forward to Microsoft accidentally announcing an AMD release date in retaliation

[Saracen]

I'm not convinced about what can, or should, be read into a Win10 launch date from her remarks.

She was, after all, talking about their projections for their own financials, and how they derived them. It would, therefore, be unreasonable not to include the predicted impact of Win10. Given the "this summer" expectation, and that end-July is roughly mid-point for the normal summer definition of June-August, then that date may be no more than a prudent guesstimate.

Or it may be based on unreleased knowledge.

I don't see how we can know, or sensibly guess, which.

Nor, frankly, do I care. We'll know well in advance of actual availability because MS, as usual, will no doubt have the usual fanfare and fireworks in advance to build pre-orders, plans, anticipation, publicity and hype. It matters not, really, if we get a date one, three or six months in advance. Well, not to me anyway, because it won't affect my decisions. What will is more detail of exactly what MS strategic direction, pricing, clarification on the "free" 12 months, etc. But not exact date.

[abaxas]

Does it matter when win10 is released? No-one in their right mind will install it until we get at least sp1.

[shaithis]

Does it matter when win10 is released? No-one in their right mind will install it until we get at least sp1.

Do people still wait for SP1? That was so last millennium.

[Saracen]

I thought the plan was for no more service packs, but constant, automatic, inline, streaming updates?

It's one of the mooted aspects of Win10 that worries me.

[crossy]

Does it matter when win10 is released? No-one in their right mind will install it until we get at least sp1.

Hmm, I didn't have that much in the way of hassle with Win7. Couple that with the generally-held-view that W10 better be pretty b**** good or else Saracen isn't going to be the only one heading for the sunny uplands of Linux, and maybe we can be cautiously optimistic about the lack of Murphy Features in W10.

Then again, some (cynics?) have described W10 as "W8 SP2" - so maybe it'll be okay to go before W10SP1.

By the way, I'd not read too much into AMD referring to the word "launch" wrt W10 - since that could just mean the usual orgy of hype and publicity running up to actual availability. For example the Jawbone UP3 was "launched" quite a while ago - but there's been much grousing that the actual availability is around now. Same with Apple - the Watch was launched a while ago, but the store still said "pre orders" last time I looked. (Which granted was a while ago, because I'm not intending to buy an Apple Watch).

The other aspect is that if AMD figure on W10 availability driving a lot of people to upgrade their hardware, then they (AMD) will presumably need to ramp up their production quite a bit ahead of the W10 ship date - so they can produce the CPU's, APU's and GPU's, get them to manufacturers and let the manufacturers build that final "ship" product.

[iranu]

Does it matter when win10 is released? No-one in their right mind will install it until we get at least sp1.

I always wait a year to see whether a new OS is any good and for the bugs to get ironed out.

[Lee H]

Does it matter when win10 is released? No-one in their right mind will install it until we get at least sp1.

I will - I for one will embrace the DX12 goodness and get better performance from my rig.
I also have a xbone so will like the PC/console integration.

[GuidoLS]

Does it matter when win10 is released? No-one in their right mind will install it until we get at least sp1.

I've been using it as my daily driver for a couple of months now, and after the next update, I may well use it as my daily driver on my primary/gaming rig. I'm not thrilled with the new looks (I'm fond of the original Windows 95 desktop, at least for looks, and all my systems still sport that look) but there are plenty of ways to alter that appearance - in particular, the ones that were made to make Win8/8.1 look/feel like Win7.

Only thing I absolutely do not like - the lack of the Games Explorer, as introduced in Vista, and carried on to 7. I shall figure out how to make a proper version of that, instead of just a folder full of shortcuts.