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    Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Stanford and Cornell scientists used CNN, Breitbart and IGN forums as sources.
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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Not sure how much faith I have in their source material. Disqus requires no validation for accounts, so there are no ramifications for bad behavior. I don't see that translating over to a real set for message boards that do require valid e-mail addresses and are actually moderated.

    And is an algorithm really needed?
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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    The question isn't whether an algorithm is needed, it's whether *automation* (which requires an algorithm) is needed. And, of course, it's not, when the forum is small enough. But if the question "So what can be done except for using hundreds of man-hours to weed trolls out?" is valid for a forum then yes, automation could be useful. Even if it had a 20% false positive rate, it would be a boon to someone who moderates a forum but wishes they didn't have to.

    That could be anything from a sole developer who runs a small but popular site to a large magazine site that essentially has a thread per article. One solution in the latter case is to close comments but that's a potential disappointment to readers with comments to offer who get there after the deadline.

    A troll detector wouldn't necessarily replace the moderator but it could be a useful first line defence, like an email spam filter. Perhaps one day forums will have a familiar piece of advice for posters. "Don't see your post? Check the Trolls folder".

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Firstly, I'd be interested to hear what the Hexus lords think of this - if this was available to Hexus would they use this automated troll hammer?

    Secondly, whatever happened to that (hurriedly looks in his bookmarks) plan of getting the crowd to police itself. I remember setups proposed like being able to report a troll automatically and their account would be suspended automatically after a certain number of reports. A suspected troll would then have their posts etc inspected manually before a final ban. The upside of that scheme was that there was safeguards for malicious reporting, with "black marks" being assigned for bad reports leading to the reporter hitting the suspend list after too many bad reports.

    Personally I'd like to see all sites insist on registration and if they use Disqus etc then those meta-sites really need to ask for repeated confirmation (monthly?).
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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Hexus doesn't have a troll problem, so it's unlikely this would be called for (it's more spam and advertising that they have to deal with I expect). Trolling isn't hidden, it's something that requires a community response to work, so you tend to notice - as it is there are perhaps a few trolls a year.

    And that's what's clever about this - it's not detecting spam, it's specifically trolling.

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    This seem like those sarcastic remarks you made to your team mates on steam are going to kick you out of the internet for good.

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Life is full of trolling. Why should 'the internet' be any different.

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    This is utter rubbish, better systems than this have been designed. They have almost 100% accuracy and can be downloaded from loads of places.
    In addition the OP is clueless, this site is a disgrace and Katie Hopkins is the voice of all wisdom and knowledge

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    I can often spot one after one or two posts, but sometimes I let them run to see how far they'll go




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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    3250 posts so far Peterb
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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    I can often spot one after one or two posts, but sometimes I let them run to see how far they'll go :naughty
    How very evil of you!
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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Lol troll.....lol

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    It puzzles me that a troll would only target a few threads - I would have thought that it would be the opposite.

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    So does Hexus prevent all capital posts? I just tried to post an all caps word in response to a post and it autocorrected it to lower case. wtf?

    RUBBISH

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    So that worked, but if I try it in its own post...

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    Re: Algorithm spots internet trolls after 5 posts, offers 80% accuracy

    Rubbish

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