I used to think Prime was expensive for delivery only. I don't normally need stuff that quickly, if I do, then I can pay the delivery for that one delivery. But Amazon locker gives the best value for money, and I can collect at my convenience!
But £79 for an add on service that I have absolutely zero interest in and would never use? No thanks.
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The problem with that is it both devalues prime video, (an equivalent netflix subscription is £85 p.a.) and quite probably is a loss maker on the delivery side of things. Ultimately you're not the type of customer that they're aiming at.Originally Posted by crossy
Were instant video even halfway functional on android tablets I'd have not issues renewing at the higher price. As it is no we're rid of the OH's iPad I'd be paying for a service I wouldn't use. Nearly everything I had delivered on prime went through collect+ which is still free £20+ as far as I can tell.
I don't think amazon see prime as free delivery with added video. Its definitely video with added free delivery. Having used it on both fire and amazon TV its a very nice experience, certainly up there with the itunes/appletv/ipad 'just works' functionality. Free delivery is there to bridge the content gap that they're already starting to address vs. netflix (black sails, outlander, ripper street etc).
Maybe, but the two services have nothing in common. I have absolutely no interest at all in paying for video on demand, whereas I might have a reason to subscribe to a delivery service, at a reduced price. But bundling the one with the other means I won't take either. Prime delivery isn't essential, as I said in the earlier post. The alternatives suit me just as well.
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Except that Prime used to be about delivery, and had nothing whatever to do with video, etc.
Then, they tacked other things, like video on, jacked the price hugely and now seem to be saying it's about video. Well, not to those of us that had it for delivery, and neither then nor now give a fig for their video.
If they don't want to offer the premium delivery option, then fine. But in reality, all they're trying to do is leverage sales of their video service off the back of customers buying goods, and regular customers at that, if they had a need for Prime. This is the same mindset as insurance companies adding in optional legal insurance without bithering to ask, or for that matter, Scan adding in Scansure without asking customers, then saying it's non-refundable if customers don't notice, in advance, what they're doing. I stopped using Scan over Scansure, and I've more or less stopped using Amazon too, though not just over Prime.
I have to say I'm rather surprised you used amazon in the first place given your opinions on data mining, but I agree wholeheartedly with you, as I say I haven't renewed my subscription as theres no value in it for me. My point is that they're either trying to pull a BT 'look how many people sign up for this thing we give away free with a phone line' type approach, or they're using it as a distinguishing feature compared to netflix. Or both.
Would I buy a delivery only prime at £50? Probably, but then they're effectively only 'making' £30 for instant video, which is massively out of line with the competition.
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I don't, these days. I wouldn't entirely rule it out, for odd items here and there. But not enough to use Prime, that's for sure. But the last time was, well, I don't remember when.
Given a choice, I buy local, not mail order, even if it means a price premium, which it sometimes does. Though by no means always. Partly that's about data mining, but only partly. It's also about sheer convenience. It's FAR more convenient for me to just go get what I want, in person, than get jerked around by couriers. I get enough of that in my working life to be keen on doing it in my private life.
But on data mining, I (very reluctantly) accept that it's pretty much impossible to leave a zero data footprint. Well, short of living the life of a hermit, or having enough money to hide behind intermediaries. And I don't have enough.
So, I leave the absolute minimum I can get away with, consistent with the realms of reality. Wherever and whenever I reasonably can, I minimise data footprint. The vast bulk of my shopping I do in person, with cash. The occasional non-cash transaction is inevitable .... like four ebooks I bougnt recently, that are ONLY available firect from the author. So, it's purchase online, or don't purchase. If I want something sufficiently to not do without, or buy an alternative, if there is one, then an occasional transaction is fair enough. What I've said in the past is that I'm very very careful indeed about giving out data.
For instance, I gave my phone number recently to a courier firm, pretty much because I had to. But I only agreed to that because the number is about to change.
IV is usable on a lot of smart TV's (even my quite-old-now Sony) and many games consoles.
I'd strongly argue that your "equivalent netflix subscription" price is wrong though. Netflix is an all-you-can-eat service - so once you pay for your subscription then (unless it's carefully hidden and neither the kids nor I have found it yet) you have free run of all the content. IV on the other hand is pretty similar to Sky - you get a selection of "bundled" programmes but if you want any interesting stuff (and I'm speaking of films here rather than any of the made-for-Amazon dramas) then you've got to pay, and the price tariffs are on the high side.
Hmm, original Prime was delivery only, so I suspect that New (yukky) Prime was more about them (Amazon) desperately trying to get some value out of that LoveFilm lame duck they got. Interesting to hear that "it just works" on Amazon devices - the experience on Sony TV and XBox was not a good one - Netflix beats it without too much trouble.
I'll stand by my original comment - rather than Amazon's current "here's what WE think you want, take it or leave it" attitude there's definitely a lot of be said for a tiered approach. And personally, I think that having an express delivery option "at cost" would have actually made them money as more people would sign up for it (more cost-effective) and - arguably - be more inclined to buy more product from Amazon. As I said, New Prime has definitely strongly encouraged me to buy a lot less from Amazon.
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We used to have Free Super Saver Delivery from Amazon UK to Scandinavia (Denmark in my case) for all orders over £25 and I was quite the frequent customer. They dropped that about a year ago and I haven't bought from them since.
Who wants Prime? Amazon should take lessons off of Tesco's downfall.
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I had a quick go at making a basket. When you don't have enough items in your basket, it doesn't say 'Add X amount' to qualify for free shipping. In fact it doesn't mention it at all.
And now when you do qualify for free shipping, instead of listing P&P as £0 it adds a 'Promotion Applied'. This clearly gives them more control to turn it off in future.
I added a few items based on recommendations - I also added (though you cant see) an item that isn't sold by Amazon just to see how it coped. (This however, was free delivery offered by the market place seller). I included a book below £10 just to see if other qualifying items would have qualified for the lower P&P threshold but you have to buy at least £10 of books for that to work, cant just be anything.
Why don't they just go back to using RM & couriers... now what we're paying for is their own logistics centre.
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Crafty move by Amazon:- a blender I wanted for £19.99 so you don't get free delivery...same price John Lewis erm no brainer if you live near a JL as they have a reputation to maintain.
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I do live near a JL, and do get a lot of stuff there, including a blender. I don't remember seeing much at the £19.99 end of the blender market, and the one I got sure wasn't. A heck if a blender, though.
Something, something, peanut butter. Haven't we been here before?!I don't remember seeing much at the £19.99 end of the blender market, and the one I got sure wasn't. A heck if a blender, though.
Well I haven't a clue about blenders and just wanted one to chop up onions and tomatoes etc for a curry and thought this one would do:- http://www.johnlewis.com/kenwood-sb0...ack/p230882081I do live near a JL, and do get a lot of stuff there, including a blender. I don't remember seeing much at the £19.99 end of the blender market, and the one I got sure wasn't. A heck if a blender, though.
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Does mean that 99% of blurays, DVD's and CD's no longer come with free postage, including 3D films - Zavvi will be lapping up the extra business.
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