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    European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Such actions have short-lived and relatively limited impacts, according to research.
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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Well durghhhhhhh.

    Welcome to the internet, where people are more intelligent than the politicians and government agencies that try to censor it.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    According to research.....

    What a waste of money. Everyone with half a braincell told them it would be ineffective AND WHY, the moment they announced blocking.
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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Well durghhhhhhh.

    Welcome to the internet, where people are more intelligent than the politicians and government agencies that try to censor it.
    Quite.

    It is something akin to an announcement from the Ministry of the Flipping Obvious, innit?

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Quite.

    It is something akin to an announcement from the Ministry of the Flipping Obvious, innit?
    Sorry, but this has been referred to the Ministry of Pedantry who wish to point out that it was the Ministry of the Bleeding Obvious.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Surely they should just abandon all of these futile efforts and focus on other things.

    Unless there was some ulterior motive for the Governments to do these things.

    But only the media company benefits from them and that would be ridiculous.

    How could a company that that deals in information make a Government do something it wants....

    *slowly reaches for tinfoil roll*

    Oh.

    *applies tinfoil to head*


    But seriously, agreed to all the above. Futile and wasteful. Please deploy the people involved in this activity to more important (yet, less critical) tasks.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    There's 3 sites I haven't yet visited...

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    The movie studios should just flood the torrents with with cat videos labelled as the movies involved, use the same tactics, as each gets labeled as a fake add 3 more.

    As this study shows finding other/proxy sites isn't a huge problem but if it was hard to find anything good on the sites it would change things.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Well they were fighting human nature of.....something for nothing, mind you it would be interesting to know if any rich people bothered with a pirate site.
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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    As far a movies go I just pay, with that I am a very patient man and wait for them to be £3.00 on bluray in.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Sorry, but this has been referred to the Ministry of Pedantry who wish to point out that it was the Ministry of the Bleeding Obvious.

    ...
    Yes, but that in turn needs to be referred to the Mnistry of the Forum Rules, which say No Bleeding Swearing.


    Oh, wait ....

    Technical Point - Bleeding could be considered a very mild form of swearing, or not, dependent on context. I sought a clear ruling from one of the arbiters of acceptable language (me) and was informed that "flipping" wasn't swearing, and hence was safer and set a better example than ...some alternatives.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    While i agree with all the above statements about it being futile and counterproductive i also wonder what other choice they had/have, I mean it's not like they can turn a blind eye to illegal activity that would like admitting defeat, it would force them to actual address why people do these things.

    Much easier to replicate what they've done in the past (war on drugs) and play whack-a-mole instead of asking the hard questions, like why people pirate and what can be done to make it less attractive.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    As John Gilmore said, "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    While it does seem futile, as the more they attempt to shut down and censor these people the harder they push back, I do think there are significantly less arguable reasons for people to pirate than there have been in the past.

    The entertainment industries seem to be getting on board with digital releases and downloads, they are also seemingly relentless in their pursuit of those that fund/create these piracy sites, I think eventually they'll drag enough people through the courts and these "pirates" will learn to fear the possible consequences and piracy will decrease.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    Bit of packet inspection, 'chubb master key', piracy solved issue solved.

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    Re: European Commission: Pirate site shutdowns are ineffective

    I like the EU. The "bleeding obvious" isn't at all obvious to corporations. Concrete proof is good.

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