Windows 10 insider preview build 10565 integrates Skype services

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The first insider preview build since 18th September brings quite a few changes.

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the final Windows OS, is getting more interesting. Microsoft has really taken wonderful way to handle this as a service.

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Originally Posted by Arulmani

Microsoft has really taken wonderful way to handle this as a service.

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What if I don't want my Operating system to become a service?

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Originally Posted by Corky34

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Originally Posted by Arulmani

Microsoft has really taken wonderful way to handle this as a service.

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What if I don't want my Operating system to become a service?

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Go back to 8.1 or 7 or try Linux maybe.

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Originally Posted by Mauley

Go back to 8.1 or 7

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That's not exactly a sustainable option. DX12 wont be backported, and when Microsoft abandons 7 and 8, they'll become a security hazard.

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Originally Posted by Mauley

or try Linux maybe.

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Also not for everyone.

Guessing that they've forgotten the lessons learnt when they got sued by the EU by too tightly integrating their own products into Windows and stiffling competiton.

Anyhow, will never upgrade to Windows 10 or any of it's variants, and when Windows 8 becomes too insecure, I'll get off my arse and learn Linux. Still can't imagine how businesses with any degree of IT sense are able to install Windows 10 either, the sheer amount of data it leaks to the outside world is staggering.

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Originally Posted by Mauley

Go back to 8.1 or 7 or try Linux maybe.

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Linux won't help.

I am running a Fedora install on my home machine. It is quite up to date even though I installed it 6 years ago because, just like Windows 10, with a Linux install you are expected to keep the machine up to date. Updating to the latest version is pretty easy to do and obviously always no money to pay, but if you ignore a couple of updates you will find yourself unsupported as only the last few versions get any updates.

So whilst you do have a choice in when and how Linux boxes are updated, in real use you tend to be along for the ride picking up every change along the way whether you like it or not, just like Windows 10.

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Originally Posted by Corky34

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Originally Posted by Arulmani

Microsoft has really taken wonderful way to handle this as a service.

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What if I don't want my Operating system to become a service?

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Well you are stuck in the past then I'm afraid. Welcome to the new world of constant updates and upgrades!

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Originally Posted by Lucio

Guessing that they've forgotten the lessons learnt when they got sued by the EU by too tightly integrating their own products into Windows and stiffling competiton.

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It's no worse than Apple and Google bundling their 'chat' services, Skype is basically the replacement for the old MS Messenger service so it's nothing new from a bundling perspective.

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Originally Posted by Lucio

Guessing that they've forgotten the lessons learnt when they got sued by the EU by too tightly integrating their own products into Windows and stiffling competiton.

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Skype doesn't have a dominant market position, there are MANY IM and chat applications with large user bases, so it's quite different from the IE situation. People are also much more clued up these days about using alternative applications rather than just sticking with the default.

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Originally Posted by bae85

Well you are stuck in the past then I'm afraid. Welcome to the new world of constant updates and upgrades!

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Really? What about those servers on air gapped networks?

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Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle

Skype doesn't have a dominant market position, there are MANY IM and chat applications with large user bases, so it's quite different from the IE situation. People are also much more clued up these days about using alternative applications rather than just sticking with the default.

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IIRC the ruling wasn't based on IE being in the dominant market position, it was that Windows was the dominant OS and Microsoft used that dominance to gain an unfair competitive advantage in the browser market by packaging IE as the default browser in their then dominate OS.

And not one person even commented on how terrible skype is to begin with. Wish MS never bought them.

I want fewer integrated software, a more vanilla Windows 10 without all of this rubbish, not more junk filling my hard drive that I do not need!

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Originally Posted by aidanjt

Also not for everyone.

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No OS is for everyone, but there are alternatives if Windows 10 is not your thing. If all of those alternatives are more onerous to you than Win 10 you have to decide which is the least bad option, that or staying on an unsupported Win 7/8.

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Originally Posted by Lucio

Guessing that they've forgotten the lessons learnt when they got sued by the EU by too tightly integrating their own products into Windows and stiffling competiton.

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As others have pointed out, neither Windows is no longer the dominant OS (IIRC it's 3rd behind Android and iOS,) and Skype is not a virtual monopoly in the IM space either.

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Originally Posted by spacein_vader

No OS is for everyone, but there are alternatives if Windows 10 is not your thing. If all of those alternatives are more onerous to you than Win 10 you have to decide which is the least bad option, that or staying on an unsupported Win 7/8.

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For me, the latter. But air-gapped. Things that require Windows are done on air-gapped machines. Things that require net acccess (surprisingly little, for me) happen either on Linux desktops, or Android tablets that have NO access to personal data.

It's not ideal, but for me, the least-worst option.

But Win10? Nope.