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Workstation and server motherboards support new Intel Xeon E3-1200 V5 product family.
Could it be? Could there finally be more than one motherboard option for me with Skylake E3 Xeons? And I'm not just limited to ATX? Hallelujah!
I'm so used to there only being exactly one motherboard available for E3 Xeons and that's usually from ASUS and available in ATX only.
Not that these boards look particularly exciting... Only the ATX board utilizes the C236 chipset. Ah well, at least that makes it two boards to choose from, as ASUS will inevitably have one too.
ECC unregistered or buffered?
A mini-ITX server motherboard ... sounds interesting. Oh wait, only 2xDIMM slots so only limited use for virtualisation projects. Such as shame.
Exactly how many did you expect them to fit onto a 170mm x 170mm board? What do you want them to remove, the VRMs? The PCIe slot and SATA ports? Has there *ever* been a mini-itx board with more than 2 DIMM slots? I suspect it might be possible to cram 4 SODIMMs on a mini-itx board, but even that would be tight....Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
Yeah, ditch the VRMs. WHO NEEDS 'EM :PQuote:
Originally Posted by scaryjimExactly how many did you expect them to fit onto a 170mm x 170mm board? What do you want them to remove, the VRMs? The PCIe slot and SATA ports? Has there *ever* been a mini-itx board with more than 2 DIMM slots? I suspect it might be possible to cram 4 SODIMMs on a mini-itx board, but even that would be tight....Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
The VRMs took up too much room ... SO I REWIRED THEM!Quote:
Originally Posted by LeetyMcLeet
PCI slots? How quaint.
Yup, there are a number of server ITX boards with Intel SoCs that have 4 DIMM slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryjim
e.g.
http://www.asrockrack.com/general/pr...Model=C2750D4I
http://www.supermicro.co.uk/products...V-8C-TLN4F.cfm
Avoton feels like a cop out being only a 20W SoC - very little power regulation required to manage that. A 45W, 8 core, Broadwell BGA SoC is very interesting though.
OTOH they're both low power BGA SoCs, not full power socketed parts, which makes a huge difference in available board real estate. Interesting to see it has been done; I guess the compromise you make with the small form factor is choosing between flexibility of socketed processors or the higher capacity for RAM...
And you have to drop a lot of the rear IO/loose the CPU heat sink to fit the slots onto the board. Not to mention the Avoton SoC price tag.
I really like these even though a board like this is long over due. But seriously no 10 gigabit ethernet. Would it have been too much to add just one port.
Uusually unregistered for E3 Xeons. But the wholly depends on the processor, since the memory controller moved on-die with Nehalem. Which is the reason I need to buy a Xeon (or an i3) to get ECC memory support.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
Or you could go AMD (although motherboard support for ECC function is a little variable). Even the lowly Sempron 140 had ECC support...Quote:
Originally Posted by azrael-
You're missing the point - the most pressing requirement for most servers these days is not the amount of storage or even the amount of computer power. A SAN or NAS solution takes care of the storage and even a modest i5/i7 or Xeon equivalent is still more than enough for many applications, even for purposes of virtualisation but therein lies the real problem - if you want to really hobble a server then limit the amount of RAM you can give it.Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryjim
You can get away with 4 DIMM slots to support 32Gb with 8Gb DIMMS but limiting yourself to 16Gb is almost useless if you're looking for a lightweight virtualised solution.
And yes, 4xDIMM M-ITX boards do exist. 2x DIMM is useless for anything other than a limited physical server.