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    LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    And a rollable 18-inch OLED 'newspaper' is among its prototype offerings.
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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    So what exactly is the benefit of 8K? I mean, sure it'd be great with a beast as hell computer, but there isnt anything for media outside of video games that could actually take advantage of a TV with that kinda resolution. Also, would this require MST? I imagine the only cables capable would be two DP 1.2 or two HDMI 2.0. Speaking of gaming on this thing, can it even do 60hz at 8K? What's the response time like? Would it even be a good option for gaming if you were running a rig capable of pushing that kinda resolution?
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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by bmdc View Post
    So what exactly is the benefit of 8K? I mean, sure it'd be great with a beast as hell computer, but there isnt anything for media outside of video games that could actually take advantage of a TV with that kinda resolution. Also, would this require MST? I imagine the only cables capable would be two DP 1.2 or two HDMI 2.0. Speaking of gaming on this thing, can it even do 60hz at 8K? What's the response time like? Would it even be a good option for gaming if you were running a rig capable of pushing that kinda resolution?
    Well you are maintaining a similar pixel density to a 50" 4k tv.

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    I'd imagine it could require four DP 1.2 or HDMI 2.0, at least for 60Hz, as it's four times the res of a 4K screen.

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    98" 8K TV has the same pixel density as a 49" 4K TV, which has the same pixel density as a 24.5" 1080p monitor.

    But TVs aren't viewed from 2' away. That 24.5" 1080p monitor is definitely pixelly at 2', and even at 4'. But a TV is viewed at 10'+, and it may be that 8K on 98" at 10' distance is just about a reasonable resolution to hide pixels entirely.

    Bonus is that you can sit 5' away and use it as a giant PC monitor and still enjoy crisp text.

    (Yeah, I'm not doing the maths required to work it out exactly).

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    driving all those pixels inside the TV needs a GTX 950 and a 4 core skylake CPU? maybe behind the TV exists a massive heatsink.

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    I'm sure world leaders have already placed their orders: can imagine Putin, Kim Yung Un etc having them in their gigantic command bunkers....
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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by bmdc View Post
    So what exactly is the benefit of 8K? I mean, sure it'd be great with a beast as hell computer, but there isnt anything for media outside of video games that could actually take advantage of a TV with that kinda resolution. Also, would this require MST? I imagine the only cables capable would be two DP 1.2 or two HDMI 2.0. Speaking of gaming on this thing, can it even do 60hz at 8K? What's the response time like? Would it even be a good option for gaming if you were running a rig capable of pushing that kinda resolution?
    Isn't 8K the current resolution used in cinema? I think we can expect some heavy DRM on this

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    8k ?!!! by end of 2016 will there be a 12k device ???!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Isn't 8K the current resolution used in cinema? I think we can expect some heavy DRM on this
    This may shock you but digital cinemas still use 4K!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinema

    However with a 250Mbps bit rate, I expect quality to be somewhat better than any consumer 4k
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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-gtech View Post
    I'd imagine it could require four DP 1.2 or HDMI 2.0, at least for 60Hz, as it's four times the res of a 4K screen.
    How about a USB 3.1 type "C" / Thunderbolt 3 cable or a DP 1.3, as from what I have read, they are both supposed to be able to do 8K.
    But at the moment, what use is 8K, except for bragging rights.
    Since we are having trouble getting a GPU to do high frame rate 4K (and how many 4K monitors and TV's have a high frame rate), what would you need for 8K?
    Then what is out there to take advantage of it apart from pixel density for super, ultra (whatever they call them) large TV's?
    Although, it would give a good picture and I realise that there would be some like graphic designers who would drool over the potential for a reasonable sized 8K monitor.
    I would not say no if I won one or three (3x 8K large monitors for gaming might be good if I also won the system to run them), but I know I could not afford to buy one and I don't win competitions.
    Basically the cost would be very high not just because of the initial outlay for the screen, but because of the hardware required to take full advantage of it. On the other hand, there are the advances in VR technology and the hardware to make that work on PC's.
    Which would you prefer? Or would a better question be - Which could you afford?

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by whatif View Post
    But at the moment, what use is 8K, except for bragging rights.
    Perhaps you haven't experienced what a decent scaler can do. My old Samsung 1080p screen did wonders with SD content, it doesn't have to do proper 8K to justify itself it just has to be better than a 4K set at displaying 4K.

    But yes, there will be those bragging rights enthusiasts that just want it to go up to 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arulmani View Post
    8k ?!!! by end of 2016 will there be a 12k device ???!!!!!!!!!
    Already a so-called '10k' screen (purely to show off the Chinese company's manufacturing prowess I'm sure) : http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1433489433

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatif View Post
    But at the moment, what use is 8K, except for bragging rights.
    Perhaps you haven't experienced what a decent scaler can do. My old Samsung 1080p screen did wonders with SD content, it doesn't have to do proper 8K to justify itself it just has to be better than a 4K set at displaying 4K.
    Yes I have seen them side by side at a friends place about 6 - 8 months ago - he had recently upgraded his lounge room TV from 2K to 4K (both 65" models), same brand and same model range.The 2K one going to the kids room. When you sat up closer there was a difference, but when we sat back in his large lounge room (at least 14 feet away - I am over 6 foot and I was laying down on the couch and not even half way to the TV), it was not really noticeable. Kept telling him he needed the bigger screen, but the price difference to the one he wanted (84") was to much for his wife.
    But I can understand higher pixel density for extra large TV's, problem is they are soooo expensive and do they have the inputs to take high enough data rates to do 8K. If you wanted to watch a 8K movie in 3D, will the device supplying the movie cope, will the cable cope, or will the TV just upscale everything? Passive 3D would definitely be better with 8K (2x separate 4K images)
    Personally, I would prefer 4K or 8K for PC monitors where you do sit very close, but I would like to see high frame rates which is where the better inputs comes into play (also new cable boxes, PC's and anything else required to produce a true 8K signal with a good frame rate).
    One thing I would love to see is TV's with a direct input for PC's like in a monitor, especially for gaming - I could imagine 3x 8K 100" plus TV's. But would a well sorted VR set be better? Although it would look funny sitting in the lounge room, and everyone is watching TV via a VR headset. LOL
    And like I said, I would never say no if I was given a 8K TV, just can't see the point in one at the moment while I watch a 2K OLED 65inch TV from about 10' away. It is just my personal opinion. Give it a few years and ask me then. :-) I suppose we will then be debating the benefits (or lack of) something like 16K or 24K TV''s. Ha Ha :-)

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    This may shock you but digital cinemas still use 4K!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinema

    However with a 250Mbps bit rate, I expect quality to be somewhat better than any consumer 4k
    Not shocked, I wasn't sure hence I asked the question. Clearly high bitrate 4K is up to the task, although more like 3.5K once someone's head is in the way and the sound quality is a bit academic when all you can hear is that person scoffing popcorn Needless to say I don't go to the cinema very often, and I can see why people invest in large home screens in preference.

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    Re: LG shows off production ready 98-inch 8K Super UHD TV

    Quote Originally Posted by whatif View Post
    I suppose we will then be debating the benefits (or lack of) something like 16K or 24K TV''s. Ha Ha :-)
    Not me, as the technology improves my eyesight degrades with age and I think they already met in the middle with a 47" 1080p TV

    I could be tempted by a larger 4K set, but honestly I think I will only be tempted by one of the existing TVs breaking and forcing the issue.

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