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    BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    And youths spend more time online than watching linear TV according to the BBC.
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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    I'd like the whole of TV to just disappear of the airwaves, and be replaced with downloadable on-demand boxsets.

    Okay, I'll leave news and sports - they're broadcast by nature. Anything live is broadcastable, everything else can just be boxsettable, even if new episodes are only added at specific times.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    What about the many, many people, who may not even have internets? Old folk, etc?

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Isn't this ageist?

    ie, as you young'uns know how to work the internet you can be inconvenienced by having to go online to watch your programmes.

    I will say I did watch quite a few things on BBC three, but now I can't just change the channel to watch it I probably won't bother.

    Good way to kill a channel I suppose.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Maybe I'm being cynical but I can't help wondering how long it's going to be before Three's content starts getting streamed into "free" and "paid". BBC got an email address of mine a while ago, and I'm getting weekly adverts for 'wonderful' content that's available to buy from the BBC Store, most at pretty steep prices to boot.

    Wonder what's going to happen to the BBC Three slot in Freeview etc? Although I'm sure I heard something about a possible "BBC One +1" time shifted channel. Not that bothered personally about Three, but if they try and move BBC Four to online only then I think there'd be some major objections.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Whilst I can see that people will object I actually think this is quite forward looking. I know loads of people who have got cheap Kodi boxes these days and watch lots of streamed channels much more than they watch "normal" tv. In fact the vast majority of these people with Kodi boxes now record nearly everything via Sky or whatever...
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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Folks, this is happening because the bbc is getting screwed because the gov won't let them raise the license fee - just like they won't let councils raise council tax. They also lost top gear - a double funding whammy of woe.

    So the beeb needs to make cut backs. Simples. That's why F1 got culled. Now BBC3.

    It is a shame that they are axing a channel, but it is relatively niche.

    Now things get more interesting when one notes the governments criticism of the BBC for not sticking to its remit and providing too much "popular" tv and not focussing on the balance of education, informing the public etc. Interesting stance to take that!

    This would presumably be nothing to do with the friendliness of certain ministers and notable figures in the Murdoch media empire. Surely there wouldn't be any favours being done to reign in that pesky BBC with the competing offering to paid TV providers such as sky. That would be going too far. I mean who doesn't want to have an ad-free public channel dedicated to entertainment? Or F1 aired publicly?

    Now, if I were a politician I'd be working to get all football aired for free, or failing that a capped subscription, set by a government watchdog. That would limit these crazy subscription prices. I would also make it a mandatory requirement that any paid-TV provider must permit customers to select individual channels and fully customise a package to stop this "must buy the top package to have sky sports BS". It seems to me that could go some way in helping low-income families. After all football is the working man's game and all that.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Eventually the TV License has to end, so the Beeb becoming subscription based is pretty inevitable. In all fairness does anyone see TV existing beyond 10 years besides for news? Programs are pretty much all repeats or hashed together clip shows with very little new content worth our time. Even now, many people have stopped watching live television, which actually negates requiring the TV license at all. If I had a choice, I'd rather pay for a subscription model to access all current episodes, as well as all previous/historic episodes (netflix/amazon), but probably would never choose to subscribe to any terrestrial channels.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Quote Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob View Post
    Eventually the TV License has to end, so the Beeb becoming subscription based is pretty inevitable. In all fairness does anyone see TV existing beyond 10 years besides for news? Programs are pretty much all repeats or hashed together clip shows with very little new content worth our time. Even now, many people have stopped watching live television, which actually negates requiring the TV license at all. If I had a choice, I'd rather pay for a subscription model to access all current episodes, as well as all previous/historic episodes (netflix/amazon), but probably would never choose to subscribe to any terrestrial channels.
    Sorry, that should have said News & Sports.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Quote Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob View Post
    Eventually the TV License has to end, so the Beeb becoming subscription based is pretty inevitable. In all fairness does anyone see TV existing beyond 10 years besides for news? Programs are pretty much all repeats or hashed together clip shows with very little new content worth our time. Even now, many people have stopped watching live television, which actually negates requiring the TV license at all. If I had a choice, I'd rather pay for a subscription model to access all current episodes, as well as all previous/historic episodes (netflix/amazon), but probably would never choose to subscribe to any terrestrial channels.
    Why? Why does the licence fee need to end? What it needs is for the bbc to be able to insist on having a licence to watch iplayer.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    The BBC should become subscription only. It should fund itself and not have to rely on what is in effect a tax for watching live broadcast TV. I don't watch the BBC, use its website or listen to its radio stations and therefore shouldn't have to pay for it just as I don't have to pay for "Electric Lawnmower Monthly" magazine when I buy a newspaper.
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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Folks, this is happening because the bbc is getting screwed because the gov won't let them raise the license fee - just like they won't let councils raise council tax. They also lost top gear - a double funding whammy of woe.
    to be fair I don't actually see the point in license fee anymore, there's just as many 'adverts' on bbc as there on itv etc, they're just for their own shows instead of bingo and the likes. Not to mention the sheer amount of repeats that are on tv these days... wasn't that the whole point of catchup tv services online.

    So the beeb needs to make cut backs. Simples. That's why F1 got culled. Now BBC3.

    It is a shame that they are axing a channel, but it is relatively niche.
    admittedly niche (can't even remember watching it) I'm sure there are other ways to save money, cut some of the stupidly high wages they pay out on 'celebrities' as it's not like there aren't cheaper options out there and they could always monetise iPlayer by making it subscription service for people outside the UK/without a tv license (geo blocked, also needs a code from license for UK users). The amount of users online asking for access outside the UK is pretty high.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob View Post
    Eventually the TV License has to end, so the Beeb becoming subscription based is pretty inevitable. In all fairness does anyone see TV existing beyond 10 years besides for news? Programs are pretty much all repeats or hashed together clip shows with very little new content worth our time. Even now, many people have stopped watching live television, which actually negates requiring the TV license at all. If I had a choice, I'd rather pay for a subscription model to access all current episodes, as well as all previous/historic episodes (netflix/amazon), but probably would never choose to subscribe to any terrestrial channels.
    Why? Why does the licence fee need to end? What it needs is for the bbc to be able to insist on having a licence to watch iplayer.
    Because it is all but irreverent. It's based on a model that does not suite the way people currently watch video content. If you license iplayer, then effectively you're still "subscribing" to watch those shows, however the content on it is too limited in its current form to be worth paying for. I don't see value in much of terrestrial TV in it's current form and hope that moving to a subscription based approach (similar to netflix and amazon) may well cause them to improve.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    The fact you don't need to pay a TV license to use iplayer (not live) just seems like madness. With that many are legitimately not paying a license but still enjoying the content which surely is the loophole they need to close rathe than just move more content online for people to watch without playing.

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    BBC should abolish the license and start playing adverts, SKY do both - you pay for very expensive subscription and are forced to watch boring ads as well!

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    Re: BBC Three moved online only saving corporation £30 million

    This old argument about the license fee again.

    In a certain way I'm looking forward to when everyone is saying, "remember how great television was when the BBC was around", because without it television in the UK will be garbage.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomasz View Post
    BBC should abolish the license and start playing adverts, SKY do both - you pay for very expensive subscription and are forced to watch boring ads as well!
    And isnt it just FANTASTIC! You get to give your money away AND see those brilliant adverts inbetween those pesky television shows.

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