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About LinkBacksDo you mean 4k? Might depend on the title, but in games that take advantage of DX12 and async compute in particular then performance should be significantly higher as long as they're not bottlenecked by VRAM size.Originally Posted by lumireleon
Do you mean 4k? Might depend on the title, but in games that take advantage of DX12 and async compute in particular then performance should be significantly higher as long as they're not bottlenecked by VRAM size.
Eh, after the great temps from their recent water cooled cards I feel they've earnt the right for us to move on from that - the 290X is an old card by now
I guess they're doing what they did with the 295X2 and avoiding using any PCI-e bus power, so it's just the power cables proving juice. Sucking ~350W through two 8-pin connectors is a bit naughty, perhaps with the higher number of connectors they won't need to publish a list of compatible PSU's like they did last time because of them playing fast & loose with the PCI-e cable specs?If you follow the first link in the article, AMD have a really nice picture of the card with its shroud off, showing off the mad crazy layout of tubes and waterblocks underneath it! They also have FireStrike results for the Pro Duo against the 295X2 and Titan Z, and it smokes them both, with a FHD score of over 20k. I've compared their results to the Hexus ones and they're in the same ballpark (AMD's are slightly higher as they're using an i7 5960X), so that should give you some idea of the performance on offer - almost but not quite twice the Nano, as expected. That would (based on AMD's Nano review) mean it hits 60fps @ 4k in every game except Total War: Rome II (assuming the rest of your susbsystem can keep up, that is).
Surprised they've kitted it out with that much power circuitry though, tbh. The Nano TDP is only 175W. Going power heavy suggests they're using less-highly binned silicon, and perhaps running the power targets high to allow higher clocks too?
However they've gone about it, it's a bit of a monster...
Bit confused here, what does this card get you that a pair or Fury cards in xfire can't provide cheaper? I mean this uses a single slot, but it's full size with a radiator so not exactly space efficient and with Nano around £370 atm I could buy a pair of them and have well over £200 left over compared to a $1500 Pro Duo (Google converts that to £1062 this morning).
Edit: Does the $1500 get you the card or that entire red PC? The red PC would seem rather good value, so I assume not.
Last edited by DanceswithUnix; 16-03-2016 at 10:49 AM.
Pleiades (20-03-2016)
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Same thing the X2 cards have always given you - single slot crossfire. And it hasn't always been the same price/cheaper than 2 card crossfire. For some it's a big enough draw on its own. Without seeing reviews we can't really know how it compares in performance, power draw, noise etc. to a pair of Nano/Fury/Fury X cards. It wouldn't be the first time that getting two cards would give you more performance at a lower cost than a single high end card though.
I also wonder if they'll take a bit more care about drivers and software support - Radeon Pro is an interesting cross between their consumer and professional brandings. This could be the start of a new line of deliberate pro-sumer cards aimed at content creators (maybenot, but it would be one way to push into new market segments...).
They made the point that they see multi-chip GPUs being almost completely invisible to the user and that it was the only way of keeping up with the demand for pixels. Keeping two chips on a single card is part of that, and I can see them moving to two chips on the same interposer in the not-too-distant future.
The card seems to be more targetted towards things like VR content creation it seems:
http://anandtech.com/show/10140/amd-...radeon-pro-duo
Outside that Crossfire and SLI are not really doing well with some of the newer engines and graphics technologies being used:At AMD’s GDC 2016 “Capsaicin” event, the company has announced their long-awaited dual Fiji video card. Being released under the name Radeon Pro Duo, the new card is a departure from the usual for AMD, with the company specifically targeting it towards VR content creation rather than end-user gaming.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9874/a...elayed-to-2016
Maybe alternate methods like SFR will work better?? I don't know.
Ah, but for about the same money I can get three Nano cards, and Trio is better than Duo right?epeen!
Actually, one card for the left eye, one for the right eye, one to run physics etc it actually might be better!
Perhaps they need to go back to the old 3Dfx system of Scan Line Interleaving
3 nanos is a better idea at the same price of a Pro Duo, nice when you are compressing 4K AVI videos to micro MKV files for storage.
Not a lot of people have the cases/motherboards for running three double slot cards. Radeon Pro Duo is a much more compact solution, and as ever, you pay extra for that compared to simpler, bulkier solutions.
3 x 8pin cards have been on the market for years , both amd and NVidia have sold them - asus mars gtx 680 dual for example and the r9 295 ; and historical cards as well. so its not a new thing.
as for heat - my gtx 980 throttles at max temp of 82 degree`s , so ALL cards run hot (intel cpu`s at 95 degrees anyone).
The 295X2 was a dual 8-pin card, they just ignored the PCI-e power cable specifications
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...deon-r9-295x2/
Better to have more connectors than bully a pair of connectors!
WOW, this is looking amazing ,but need to echo the comment on the life span of VR . I am not sure it appeals to me, but, big but , I have no experience with it so, cant knock it till I try it. or something like that
Must say, I really do like the new reference card designs. Now just waiting on benchmarks
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