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It's the same size as the iPhone 5 but with the core specs of the newest iPhone 6S.
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It's the same size as the iPhone 5 but with the core specs of the newest iPhone 6S.
Yeah! I was hoping a big player would make a decent 4" device and I'm actually glad it's Apple, because other manufactures are likely to follow.
^ You mean like when Apple followed everyone else and started making big phones?
Good that they didn't give up on the smaller format phones though, I liked when Apple's phone were smaller.
Although I'm an android user (I rock a Xiaomi phone), this is actually pretty impressive. The iPhone 6S has really good specs, especially their NVMe storage and for them to actually charge a lower price is new.
Won't stop me from buying Android though but for someone like my mum who uses Apple things this is pretty good as she's on the 5S and likes the size of it. Don't have to worry for the next gew years or so then as when that gets slow I'll just get her this and it'll last her another few years. :)
Exactly, every manufacturer, including Apple moved to +4.5" because it seemed to be where the market was going. I think Apple didn't want to be left behind in the smartphone market with a smaller device and in hindsight it seems to have been a wise business decision, but a sad one because I loath large smartphones. Since, the phones at 4" or smaller from any manufacturer has been more or less entry level specification.Quote:
Originally Posted by deepblue08
Now that Apple have jumped back in to the 4" zone, I'm hopeful that the market for well spec'ed 4" devices would spring back in to life.
If not, I'd buy the Apple SE, despite all the qualms I have about the Apple system.
hopefully it'll fit in all the iphone 5 cases too and not be a couple mm out so people have to buy new ones.
I actually think this seems a bit daft.
One of the key things with Apple was that everyone had the same phone. 4, 4S, 5, etc.
And now, what? The 5C, the 6S, the 6S Plus, the SE? It's turning into exactly what they've always sought to avoid - the bizarre and nigh-on meaningless catalogue of random numbers and letters.
If I were running the show, I'd have made this the 6SE, released alongside the 6SE Plus or similar and unified the technology, kept it with 2 product lines running. As things stand, this is just confusing. And the iPad is becoming almost as bad from what I can gather.
I tend to associate "SE" with "Special Edition" which doesn't really fit here.
That said, I am not too bothered about naming conventions (and graphic cards are much worse), and think that it is nice to have the option to have a smaller phone for those of us with smaller hands.
I'd definitely consider it if I am going back to the iPhone.
It's what happens when a company 'runs out of ideas'. Apple hasn't really innovated for at least the last 5 years if not more.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
The imac - same just thinner due to cooler running hardware inside, higher resolution screens due to improvements in panel tech... nothing to do with Apple there really
The ipad/iphone - basically the same just differnet size screens to make it look like they're 'innovating', made thinner and upgraded arm based processor (which is basically other people's work 'bolted' together to make their a# chips). They also just made their own Surface Pro and decides to do their 'pro version' with their own keyboard cover and a stylus while still limiting you to a 'consumption' os. Still can't see a reason for '3D touch' and that was a bought tech iirc.
mac pro - yes it's small but you can't actually upgrade anything outside ram and single ssd due to customised internals and sockets...
macbook - nothing of note here really other than slimmer/smaller versions due to newer hardware from intel
Its funny how most people tend to think that once Apple has announced an event that it will always be groundbreaking and revolutionary. I didn't expect it for this event at all. But the upgrades are a nice thing, and we all like upgrades and nice things don't we (if we can afford them!). I like my 5S. Its still capable but stuttering and lagging a bit to the extent I notice and it annoys me. I'm not keen on the larger 6S or 6S+ so the SE is actually tempting.
Just waiting to see how much RAM it has first though.
Wonder if this will cannibalise 6S sales like the iPad mini did to the iPad
Edit: Looking at the prices I can't see how it won't, am I overlooking something or are they charging $250 extra for a screen that's 0.7" larger!?!
And higher resolution etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by tumbledragon
But no - most of the market seems to want larger phones, so a small phone won't cannibalise sales.
I'm sure I saw something saying that the 5C was on borrowed time and that "this year's models" would see it dropped. In which case it's surely only the 6, 6+, and now the 'small edition'. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
While I wouldn't buy one myself, (iOS annoys me), this looks like a pretty decent device, especially if that dollar price isn't just translated directly into a UK one. I can think of quite a few folks, like my daughter and her pals, who'd like this. 499usd (and hopefully less in the UK) for 64gb seems like good value.
I hope that it sells well. Just having Apple release a smaller phone won't make other companies produce one, but if it's a success they will.
Why on earth would you go back to a small 4" screen....
I personally wouldn't, but I can think of quite a few people who've been complaining that the 5"+ sizes are either impractical for their small pockets or don't feel comfortable in the hand. If you're not watching a lot of videos or reading desktop-fitted websites then would the larger screens be a necessity? Remember that these "tiny" screens were what we used to put up with - a reminder that 2010's Galaxy S had a screen that size, and the original Moto G (launched only three years ago) was only 1/2" larger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freebo
But, like I said at the beginning, I'm quite happy to have a larger phone. Especially if that larger phone also has a larger battery!
SE is the cheapest phone which it releases now??
But it is having low battery backup and it doesn't having 3D touch i'm hearing these lack in this model still is any cons or pros plz share
The SE does not have 3D touch, and the battery life is a lot better than the original 5S due to the power saving attributes of the A9 and the fact its driving a smaller display. Also the Touch ID sensor is the same as the one in the 5S not the current second get as in the 6S.
It also has 2GB RAM, so for a 4" iPhone it packs a pretty punch.
Have preferred the smaller screen for a phone. Have played a lot with my Dads iPhone 6 and it just doesn't suit me. The 4" is compact and fits in my pocket and I can use with one hand with no stretching issues. Maybe if I used the iPhone 6S as a daily phone I would get used to it. Some people just prefer small. I have an iPad for bigger reading, or my Laptop. :)Quote:
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You mean Apple would do that?Quote:
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Maybe not intentionally, but apparently existing iPhone 5 and 5S cases also fit the SE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingee
Seems a decent upgrade from the 5c. 16GB of memory on the base model seems a bit crap though.
Yeah why 16GB and why didn't they go with 32GB?
I kept my 4S for a long time, but when it got slowed down by iOS9, I got a 6S. I'll go for the SE, but the perfect phone for me would have been those guts in a slimmed down, waterproof 4S body. Apple used to specialize in impossible engineering feats, but they seem a bit lazy now.
Every time I try to send a message on a chairlift in a ski resort, I am reminded how much I'd rather have a smaller phone. I simply can't do it on the S3 without using a very loose grip to "move" the phone around by hand while I am typing, and the S3 isn't even a big phone by today's standard. And I didn't notice it when I first skimmed through the article, but the pricing is very aggressive for a phone that has most of the spec of a flagship model. Pity for the lack of microSD/IP rating or removable battery but this is consistent with the iPhone.
But I'd love it if Samsung release the S7 Edge on a 4" screen priced just as aggressively. Heck, it would make sense on their "Active" range. A big phone -is- nice if you are consuming a lot of content, or I suppose, you want to do a bit of work on the move.. but if it probably isn't necessary if you do a lot of outdoor activities. For that, I'd go big battery, water/dust/impact resistance, bright screen you can use with gloves on. No need for a big screen.
I think 4.5" would have been a better small size phone than 4"
Also on big phones the bezel frame around the screen is the real problem, they need to create better technology that eliminates most of that
Personally, given my very small hand, 3.5" would probably be ergomically ideal, especially as I want increased thickness for the battery. But I can see that it probably wouldn't be popular. 4.5" is already bigger than what I'd class as a small phone.