Nvidia Pascal graphics cards to ship in volume in July

[HalloweenJack]

it wouldn't surprise me if you can buy polaris the day after its announced

[kalniel]

Nope,since Lisa Su talked about availability:




It starts in July with nearly 1/3 of back to school sales happening then and 65% of purchasing decisions for the next month made then. This is according to IPSOS-MORI and Google.

That is later by the silly definition I was using for 'release'. Pascal was already announced the other day, so any release is 'later', even today

[kalniel]

What are the likely VRAM limits of GDDR5 and GDDR5X per card?

You can already buy cards with 24+GB of GDDR5, so I think getting 8GB isn't going to be a problem if you need it.

[lumireleon]

most cases the current full speed of GDDR5 is underutilized

[plexabit]

Question is if these will come with HBM2 or GDDR5X, if it's the latter it maybe worth waiting for the HBM2 cards to ship.

HBM2 won't be ready in time. Question is whether it's GDDR5X or normal GDDR5.

Confused--The chart at the bottom says that P100 will have HBM2. What am I missing?

[kalniel]

Confused--The chart at the bottom says that P100 will have HBM2. What am I missing?

What is the title of this thread? We're talking about the pascal cards shipping in volume in July. P100 is HBM2 you're right, but that's not going to be shipping in volume in July, card availability is 2017 for that one.

[Sharpethunder]

it will be GDDR5X because Micron are saying they will be at full production by the summer

[Sharpethunder]

http://hothardware.com/news/micron-s...graphics-cards

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Someone on AT forums managed to notice the following!

GP104 Die Pictured




According to junmiu @ Chiphell this is GP104 (GM204 successor), and it measures ~290-300mm². At the right there's Samsung K4G80325FB - 1.5V 8Gb GDDR5 chips that can reach 8000MHz.

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor...2H_FINAL-1.pdf

[Freebo]

Dam I just got me GTX980Ti and upgrade my monitor to 1440p.... fps take a big hit in going from 1080p to 1440p. I wont upgrade until I see about 40% improvement I guess, the last video card i had was the GTX780.

[jigger]

I don't think these graphics cards will out for while yet, and the TSMC's 16NM chips are still a big unkown. I wouldn't kick yourself over buying ti.

[The Hand]

According to wccftech GP104 will be GDDR5 and GP100 will be HBM2 with a TBC launch. If this info is correct, I'm thinking the GP100+HBM2 will launch Q1 2017 given the situation with HBM2.

[quantasm]

According to wccftech GP104 will be GDDR5 and GP100 will be HBM2 with a TBC launch. If this info is correct, I'm thinking the GP100+HBM2 will launch Q1 2017 given the situation with HBM2.

I think that also fits with previous generations where the Ti model is released later

[kompukare]

According to wccftech GP104 will be GDDR5 and GP100 will be HBM2 with a TBC launch. If this info is correct, I'm thinking the GP100+HBM2 will launch Q1 2017 given the situation with HBM2.

Very much doubt that GP100+HBM2 will launch even as Titan that early. Unless they have a lot yield issues and can do something with those dies which are rejected for the Tesla etc. Otherwise they most likely cannot spare any dies even unless it's for a paper launch of GP100. Also, aside from DP FP64 performance, GP100 is most like not that quick. It's certainly not GM100: that is a big die only really suitable for gaming.
If there is not going to be any GP102 then maybe they'll do the same as they did with Maxwell : release large die only for gaming. But that might not happen until Volta depending on how long they expect to be stuck on 16nm FF

[SlickR]

Don't wait on HBM2 on any mid level or lower cards. Its likely going to be 2017 before we see any mid range card get HBM2. Even HBM1 is a stretch for mid range cards.

GDDR5x at 10gbps would be really good though. And if I see any company release another turd with only 2GB of ram I'm never ever buying from them again. Only the very lowest entry level GPU's going around for $60 to $100 may have only 2GB, anything more expensive should have 4GB as standard memory.

[paulc010]

The question is whether it makes any economic sense to use HBM2 with these GPUs.... All systems are a balance and it may well be that the gaming performance increase (by using HMB2 over GDDR5X) just wouldn't justify the additional cost. It *will* be worth it for compute performance though, and hence the P100 uses it out of the gate.