nVidia aren't saying 3x except for VR because they're effectively warping a single display to show it twice rather than doubling the resolution, so half the resolution and increase the speed 25% with some efficiency improvements and you get your '3x in VR' claim.Originally Posted by jag272
Ahhh wasn't aware of the "in VR" part of it, as I've just been reading the highlights mainly. Good to know, thanks
You wouldn't think it given how much it gets repeated here, but such is the way of marketing. Think its the way that particular video has been cut, since if you make the video HD the chart says VR Performance, but its never mentioned audibly. Presumably is in part 6 or something.
Maxwell must be really poor in that test.
As already mentioned on another thread, AMD consider the 1070 to be high end rather than mainstream, so a different market segment. We can hope that it competes, but AMD aren't expecting it to be in the same market - they'll be finding out as soon as they hear of actual 1070 cards and will probably price the 490 accordingly, which is probably why nVidia aren't releasing the 1070 quite as quickly.
But nVidia have been 'kind' enough to price the 10 series as high end anyway, giving AMD plenty of mainstream breathing space!
I think Polaris 10 and 11 might be faster than we expect if the Vega article is true.
Rumours are around 980ti performance, which would be nice for a cheapish card.
So if Vega is significantly faster than Polaris 10 (which I guess it needs to be to make HBM worthwhile) then that could be rather quick indeed
What I am wondering: If the 1080 is a 1.6GHz card and the 1070 is a 1.1GHz card, then what does the 1070 overclock like and does it hit a memory wall from not having GDDR5X memory.
Which rumours? I thought it was more like 390X level?
Well you can always OC the RAMWhat I am wondering: If the 1080 is a 1.6GHz card and the 1070 is a 1.1GHz card, then what does the 1070 overclock like and does it hit a memory wall from not having GDDR5X memory.The GDDR5X in the 1080 looks quite disappointing really, only 25% faster than market available GDDR5.
The unreliable ones, can't remember. So many rumours they just seem to be washing over me these days.
I presume card makers could populate a 1070 card with GDDR5X if the cost isn't too much higher, and if Nvidia wouldn't do their nut at robbing 1080 salesWell you can always OC the RAM
These new finfet processes are supposed to be much more consistent in what the silicon can do, so I wonder if factory clocks will be more aggressive than before and there won't be much overclock headroom in the 1080.
I'm also thinking that if Nvidia can get 1.6GHz out of a GPU, then that bodes well for Zen on a similar process.
Ah it'll be the forum ones that say 'I hear that' which then get repeated on front page news
Maybe I should collect them for easier repeating
*awaits news article*
Quite possibly - but as mentioned I don't think there's much point at the moment - GDDR5X is presumably low in volume and quality right now - you could cherry pick GDDR5 and OC it for almost as good results and probably less cost. In the longer term though absolutely - but why release the same card again when you can give it a new monikerI presume card makers could populate a 1070 card with GDDR5X if the cost isn't too much higher, and if Nvidia wouldn't do their nut at robbing 1080 sales
As for robbing 1080 sales, the 1070 appears to be quite a lot cut down, aside from just the 20% ram bandwidth deficit - should be further behind performance than the 970 compared to the 980.
Yes I think you're right - there probably isn't the voltage headroom for OCing the GPU core.. RAM on the other hand..These new finfet processes are supposed to be much more consistent in what the silicon can do, so I wonder if factory clocks will be more aggressive than before and there won't be much overclock headroom in the 1080.
I'm also thinking that if Nvidia can get 1.6GHz out of a GPU, then that bodes well for Zen on a similar process.
Zen should be good - at least the APU part should run along nicely. Intel never ramped up their clockspeed on finfet though - I can't believe their process would be much worse than TSMC for clock speed.
Don't shoot the messenger please.*awaits news article*
Not news but rumors say...
A more recent and in depth look at where they *maybe* targeting Polaris 10 & 11 has been done by EuroGamer here.Our well-informed sources are confident that Polaris 10 should match or outperform Radeon R9 390 cards and in some cases even give the Radeon R9 390X a good kicking.
AMD will release a series of Polaris-based graphics cards, but fundamentally, all of them are based on just two different hardware designs, dubbed Polaris 10 and Polaris 11. The former looks set to take the place of the R9 380 and 380X, while the latter almost certainly replaces the current 'value' cards - the R7 370 and maybe even the sub-£100 R7 360 too.
Last edited by Corky34; 12-05-2016 at 09:07 AM.
Those back up what I said about 390X performance, not 980tiDon't shoot the messenger please.
Not news but rumors say...
A more recent and in depth look at where they *maybe* targeting Polaris 10 & 11 has been done by EuroGamer here.
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