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    AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    AMD used Cinebench compute tests to show the uplift in performance.
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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Planning on building a new system early next year, will be interesting to see whether Zen is any good and I can have an all AMD system, or whether it will end up being Intel + Nvidia/AMD.

    All boils down to best performance for the £££

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Slide displays 'Orochi' (aka FX 8350)... it's all in the detail, Mark! ;-)

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Where did the 2x performance come from exactly, that graph could be any scale they like as we've all seen it before where they start at some number other than 0 and have a tiny section blown up to make it look better.

    Don't get me wrong I would love to see AMD put pressure on Intel if for nothing more than reducing prices but I'll be waiting until it's released before getting my hopes up

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Where did the 2x performance come from exactly, that graph could be any scale they like as we've all seen it before where they start at some number other than 0 and have a tiny section blown up to make it look better.

    Don't get me wrong I would love to see AMD put pressure on Intel if for nothing more than reducing prices but I'll be waiting until it's released before getting my hopes up
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.

    The red capes are coming............

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    I'm sure there will be carefully chosen benchmarks where Zen can double Fx8350. If each Zen core has the same SSE/AVX throughput as an Fx module, then with 8 cores vs 4 modules that is a potential doubling right there in things like compressing HD video files.

    What people are really going to be interested in though is how it copes with single thread loads like WoW that used to favour Intel. That gives a step change in how the platform feels. Then there are things like database performance where AMD used to get hammered (which is particularly sad when Fx was clearly intended as an integer heavy server part to get thrashed in basic integer compute tasks like that).

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by idris View Post
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.
    There isn't a left axis on the second graph, the two graphs are separated by a dotted line and the graph on the right isn't using the same scale as the one on the left, the left has 5 delineation marks and the right has 6.

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by idris View Post
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.
    There isn't a left axis on the second graph, the two graphs are separated by a dotted line and the graph on the right isn't using the same scale as the one on the left, the left has 5 delineation marks and the right has 6.
    And also the left graph is performance/watt as the first point on that slide says, so it could just be referring to efficiency...

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by KrisWragg View Post
    Planning on building a new system early next year, will be interesting to see whether Zen is any good and I can have an all AMD system, or whether it will end up being Intel + Nvidia/AMD.

    All boils down to best performance for the £££
    Same here, price is King. I'm looking at maybe a Zen + Vega setup.

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    I am also looking forward to assembling a new PC sometime next year, when the dust settles a bit. It will be interesting, whatever happens. I hope the prices of the CPUs will go down a bit so I could afford a really fast CPU, otherwise I don't see the point in upgrading my current PC. I'm talking about the CPUs that cost from around 150-250 quid. A Zen for around 200 quid would be an instant buy in my book, but I highly doubt the price will be that low, unfortunately. Well, we'll see...

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Pricing will be interesting. I presume when AM4 is launched with the Carrizzo based quad cores they will have the usual £50 to £130 price range, so Zen will slot in over the top of that when they come out.

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by idris View Post
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.

    The red capes are coming............
    As I said there are no measurements on that graph and I have read wccf and watched their video.

    While we obviously hope for the performance they're suggesting there's nothing to say that's going to be the case based on a slide which has no actual values attached to it. For all we know it could start at 1.6 at the 'zero' line and the actual values on the graph could be 1.8 and 2.0 for example, it wouldn't be the first time we've seen creative marketing..

    Not to mention it says 'expected' performance so again it could be very inaccurate.

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    #corrections

    "that each Zen module will comprise of" --> "that each Zen module will comprise"

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    AMD is far from dead not that I am a fanboy or anything but whomever is going to offer the best performance and speed is going to get their components put into my new 3K£ system.

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    If this is true, this will be incredible...but it's a case of "if it's true".

    Oooft, i7 5960x performance at AMD prices...need a new pair of underwear

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    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    wow and again wow even if it falls just short your still getting a £700+ chip for what £150-200 .. i know which i'd take and if it's unlocked well icing on the cake
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