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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    I think that was always going to be the case once the consoles become a PC.

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Would be interesting to see if we will see games made to run only on the +.5 version of the consoles. If it doesn't, then it should be seen as a refresh (kind of like the "Slim" edition of some past home consoles). I would expect games to keep the same settings but run at higher frame rate than having 4K games only for the new consoles. I suppose that they could release it as a "VR Edition", but I am not sure if it will be well received by early adopters of the consoles. It's not just the PS3/X360 generation that lasted a long time, but PS2/GC lasted a very long time too.

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    If it will mean current PS4 games could be run at 60fps I'd be in line waiting for it to come out. Unless it costs >400£. Then I'd just get 1070GTX and forget about consoles.

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    Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    This will be a serious gaming system if true. A 4x performance jump would put the Xbox well into 4K gaming territory.
    Some games cannot even run @30 fps all the time @900p, i dont think its going to do 4k any time soon, as not even a top end cpu/gpu can do 60fps @4k

    Wasn't it said it would render @4k but output @1080p


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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by aniilv View Post
    If it will mean current PS4 games could be run at 60fps I'd be in line waiting for it to come out. Unless it costs >400£. Then I'd just get 1070GTX and forget about consoles.
    Exclusives will be the only enduring asset for consoles at this rate. PCs are the more plausible option if this trend continues, you can just upgrade a component or two when needed.

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiehard1989 View Post
    Some games cannot even run @30 fps all the time @900p, i dont think its going to do 4k any time soon, as not even a top end cpu/gpu can do 60fps @4k

    Wasn't it said it would render @4k but output @1080p


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    Well with 4x the performance the Xbox would do 4K on release.

    What do you think Microsoft would plan to do with all that extra power?

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hand View Post
    Exclusives will be the only enduring asset for consoles at this rate. PCs are the more plausible option if this trend continues, you can just upgrade a component or two when needed.
    Not at the current rate graphics card improvements are costing.


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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    What do you think Microsoft would plan to do with all that extra power?
    If what jamie says is true, then it would make sense to make all games capable of doing 60fps at 1080p.

    And there is also VR. MS might be focussing on the HoloLens but personally I think that they have the resource to be a credible player in VR if they so wish..

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    Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    Well with 4x the performance the Xbox would do 4K on release.

    What do you think Microsoft would plan to do with all that extra power?
    That would only bring it upto around a 290x or a 970, stuff more crap on the home screen

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    If what jamie says is true, then it would make sense to make all games capable of doing 60fps at 1080p.

    And there is also VR. MS might be focussing on the HoloLens but personally I think that they have the resource to be a credible player in VR if they so wish..
    Maybe, but I can't see the console market buying into hololens. Last time a looked the price was in the thousands range.

    Microsoft don't need anything like a quadruple jump in performance to run at those settings. It would be a very strange move not to shoot for 4K when you have the power too.

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    If anything you mite get netflix @4k or if it could run games @4k it would only be 30fps, anyway new consoles aint going to happen anytime soon


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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    With the current CPU it could run 30FPS at 4K. With double the CPU power it could run locked at 60 assuming enough GPU power.

    A jump to 6TFlops would actually be 4.5X the performance. That makes for a real beast of a system in the hands of console developers.

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    With the current CPU it could run 30FPS at 4K. With double the CPU power it could run locked at 60 assuming enough GPU power.

    A jump to 6TFlops would actually be 4.5X the performance. That makes for a real beast of a system in the hands of console developers.
    No not at all if it (CANNOT) even do 60fps 1080p on all games.


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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    If you have enough grunt to run 30FPS, you have enough to run 30FPS. The resolution you run at is largely irrelevant.

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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    If you have enough grunt to run 30FPS, you have enough to run 30FPS. The resolution you run at is largely irrelevant.
    Course it is as 4k is 4times more pixels than 1080p.

    Why would anyone want to game @30fps


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    Re: Will Microsoft outgun Sony with its generation 1.5 console?

    Well you're assuming 30FPS is some kind of hard limit, but thats probably not the case.

    Lots of people play around 30FPS. Thats generally considered playable.

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