Inno3D drops hint at Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 performance

[HEXUS]

Shares a graphic charting the transition from the GTX 900 series.

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[cheesemp]

So the big question now is does Polaris 10 drop in the same place or between the 1070 and the 1060? Throwing a wild and complete guesstimate out there based on rumors I've heard just above the 1060 at about 980 territory...

[sykobee]

Depends on too many unknown variables.

Is there a 2560 shader Polaris 10 SKU?
What will Polaris 10 clock to?
What is Polaris 10's next generation turbo boost capable of?
What improvements does GCN4 bring?

Polaris 10 should have a SKU that is in the same ballpark as the 1070, and I don't see it dropping as low as a 1280 shader 1060 (at 1600MHz).

[kalniel]

So the big question now is does Polaris 10 drop in the same place or between the 1070 and the 1060? Throwing a wild and complete guesstimate out there based on rumors I've heard just above the 1060 at about 980 territory...

Instant price war if so, not the best way for AMD to try and increase margins, especially if nVidia have a ~200mm2 die size for the 1060.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Instant price war if so, not the best way for AMD to try and increase margins, especially if nVidia have a ~200mm2 die size for the 1060.

Considering that AMD is currently using 365MM2 and 438MM2 chips,a lower TDP 232MM2 chip should be cheaper to make especially considering the cost of the PCB and cooling required. The R9 390 and R9 390X also use 512 bit memory controllers too. Even with a 200MM2 GP106,AMD is still in a much better situation with margins - the GM206 is around the same size as the rumoured GP106 in die area.

Taking the other rumours into account it appears more likely the GTX1060TI(which is being hinted at in this leak) is using the 314mm2 GP104 chip as three GP104 variants have been leaked. The first two are obviously the GTX1080 and GTX1070. That means Nvidia is using a 35% larger chip too.

Edit!!

The rumour looks accurate:

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gp104-gpu-skus-june/

NVIDIA Pascal GP104 SKUs:
Maxwell Graphics Card Maxwell GPU SKU Pascal GPU SKU Boards Availability
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti GM200-310-A1 GP104-400-A1 Reference and AIB Early June
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GM204-400-A1 GP104-200-A1 Reference and AIB Early June
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 GM204-200-A1 GP104-150-A1 AIB Only Mid June

From the TPU GTX1080 review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...images/gpu.jpg

[kalniel]

Taking the other rumours into account it appears the GTX1060TI(which is being hinted at in this leak) is using the 314mm2 GP104 chip as three GP104 variants have been leaked. That means Nvidia is using a 35% larger chip too.

Hexus are only saying 1060 so that was all I was referring to. A 1060ti on waste GP104 dies could also be possible, they'd have to be pretty poor dies given the 1070 already makes do with a huge cut back, though I guess they may feel they need to cover off Polaris until the <200mm2 GP106 comes online.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Hexus are only saying 1060 so that was all I was referring to. A 1060ti on waste GP104 dies could also be possible, they'd have to be pretty poor dies given the 1070 already makes do with a huge cut back, though I guess they may feel they need to cover off Polaris until the <200mm2 GP106 comes online.

I re-edited my post with some more info. It pretty much seems the GTX1060/GTX1060TI is GP104 based from the die pictures which have been seen so far.

AMD using Polaris 10 to cover the R9 380X to R9 390X bracket would shrink the GPUs used from 438MM2 and 365MM2 down to 232MM2 and probably requires cheaper cooling and PCBs too. The R9 390 series also uses double the RAM chips,so AMD should be able to grow margins anyway,as they are now using similar sized chips to Nvidia(or maybe even smaller).

This is the issue since Maxwell launched - AMD was fighting them with much larger chips,using more RAM modules and requiring more expensive PCBs and cooling.

Maxwell did well for Nvidia since they reduced the BOM of many of the cards which replaced Kepler,or raised the ASP.

[idris]

FYI - http://videocardz.com/60752/amd-radeon-rx-480-specifications-leaked