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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    As the others suggest something is seriously wrong, my cpu is at 2% @ 0.8GHz (i7-4800MQ) and I have youtube playing music in another tab as well!

    On the amd note .. the 8 core amd chips perform similar to intel 4 core / 8 thread chips we'll see if zen is any better

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    And yet, trustedinstaller.exe still appears to use just a single thread.

    Thanks, Microsoft.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by smargh View Post
    And yet, trustedinstaller.exe still appears to use just a single thread.

    Thanks, Microsoft.
    Not every task benefits from multiple threads. If a process involves a set of sequential steps that all depend on the outcome of the previous step, then you can't make that faster by throwing threads at it. Horses for courses.

    EDIT: also worth pointing out that a lot of things - disk IO, for instance - are actually parallelised in system threads on Windows. So whilst the program might only use a single control thread, it might be handing off tasks to other system processes that do use multiple threads.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    @Nifl - I've not seen any news on Hexus which is where I get most of my PC news... I've just checked the last page of forum posts so I don't think i've missed anything (Also are these "consumer" chips or extreme i7's that no one can afford)
    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I get what you're saying Nifl and Scaryjim however I'm still waiting for the jump - I went from 1 core to 4 cores a long time ago (Athlon? to core 2 quad) and I didn't spend a lot of money. I just don't see Intel moving to i5 > 4 cores any time soon. As for whether I need it - I'd argue yes. Games are only getting more and more multithreaded and I just want to see the next jump...
    It seems to be that your definition of a consumer chip is actually a CPU that costs what you would be prepared to pay. I don't agree with that definition of a consumer chip
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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    It seems to be that your definition of a consumer chip is actually a CPU that costs what you would be prepared to pay. I don't agree with that definition of a consumer chip
    I guess he really means "Mass market". I think there are lots of reasons Intel are holding back though:

    There isn't much reason yet for the mass market to move beyond 4 threads as most people don't really need the threaded performance. Making a 6 core i5 and 8 core i7 would I think make for a more interesting market and would help drive software up to using more threads. But, in the mean-time the reality is it would be selling something most people don't want/need which would be subsidising the likes of us.

    If an i5 is 6 core, that would probably make an i3 quad core so Intel would lose a lot of i5 sales. I don't see them giving up those profits, so I guess they would at best only update the i7 to more cores.

    Modern Intel mass market chips are laptop biassed not desktop. that gets you a desktop i3 branded as an i5 in the laptop because that keeps the power consumption low and the profits high. I can't see an Intel 8 core laptop working that well, at least not in the ultra-thin form factors that Intel are trying to ram down our throats. As desktop is an afterthought, I don't see it happening unless AMD start eating into their sales with Zen APUs and they aren't out for ages and will probably only come with 4 cores again, just bigger cores than Carrizo.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    ... (Also these are "consumer" chips or extreme i7's that no one can afford)
    Consumer chips are simply chips that are available to the consumer.
    By that definition, a data-chomping octo-CPU, 24-core Xeon system with the latest mega-milli-core Phe Phi Pho Phum plugged into it would also be a consumer system. Because, as far as I am aware, you don't need trade credentials to buy these things, just the finance.

    This suggests that affordability and value are reasonable parts of an everyday definition for "consumer product". Top of the range offerings that give an extra 200 MHz for 40% more £££, 33% more cores for 140% more £££ or 66% more cores for 280% more £££, fail to give value and are therefore not everyday "consumer" items. This is obviously what cheesemp means.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    I'm not these chips are meant for consumption.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon E7 v4 processors with up to 24 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    @Nifl - I've not seen any news on Hexus which is where I get most of my PC news... I've just checked the last page of forum posts so I don't think i've missed anything (Also are these "consumer" chips or extreme i7's that no one can afford)
    The new i7 6600k has 6 cores, the i7 6850k 10 cores. There's a couple in between as well, so for Broadwell enthusiast they have 6, 8 and 10 core chips.

    All of them probably slower than a i5 6600k for gaming though imo.

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