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Read more.So says a report that dubs it Naples.
> a whopping 128 PCIe Gen 3.0 lanes
And, I hope that means a minimum of 4 x U.2 ports
on future motherboards with the Zen chipsets
and full support for all modern RAID modes;
-and/or-
NVMe RAID controllers with x16 edge connectors
and a minimum of 4 x U.2 ports on each AOC.
Or a whole boatload of full speed compute modules.
Well haven't intel released a 22 core Xeon?
AMD have to come back in with big numbers if they expect to win... anything.
An overclockable 16 core Zen Opteron that runs in any AM4 board. Please make it so.
And, if AMD's Engineers are reading their email,
it will also be WAAAY KOOOL if they are anticipating
PCIe 4.0's 16G clock and 128b/130b jumbo frames.
My own prediction is that non-volatile DRAM will
vector into PCIe 4.0 quite nicely. Here's some math
to consider:
x16 PCIe 4.0 lanes @ 16GHz / 8.125 bits per byte = 31.5 GB/second MAX HEADROOM
(jumbo frame = 130 bits / 16 bytes = 8.125 bits per byte)
AMD's chipsets will surely give Intel a run for their money
if AM4 boards implement something like a DMI 4.0 link with x16 PCIe 3.0 lanes
(instead of Intel's current Z170 DMI 3.0 link with x4 PCIe 3.0 lanes);
upgrading to x16 PCIe 4.0 lanes when the latter goes into mass production.
As it stands right now, a single NVMe M.2 SSD has exactly the same
upstream bandwidth as Intel's DMI 3.0 link.
Yeah if true this is likely something to compete with the likes of the Xeon E5/7 (the latter of which goes up to 24 cores on one die), not for the desktop where such a large number of cores isn't usually beneficial.Originally Posted by Biscuit
Given that Samsung/Glofo 14nm is a bit less dense than Intel's 14nm, and Intel's 24 core is already a pretty big die, I'd be inclined to agree that it's likely an MCM chip like was commonplace for past top-end Opterons.
AMD have to sell stuff in big quantities to be back on top - though the new consoles should be a lucrative lifeline until the zen is released. Hope top level computer manufacturers will fully support front line products built around AMD.
Will they be allowed to sell into the ravenous Chinese Supercomputer market?
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They are supposed to have a different chip lined up for that, a kind of super APU with lots of shaders and HBM memory.
Pleiades (17-06-2016)
Hopefully this will actually put them back in the running, looking at the current benchmarks, AMD Opterons aren't worth very much for the price they're asking!
Xbox scorpio then(ok not HBM, but still
)
Re: Is AMD readying a 32-core, 64-thread Zen-based Opteron chip?
I just wonder whether the US Govt will block any sales if the tech is 'too advanced' to put in Chinese hands
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Valar Morghulis
Has that happened before?I just wonder whether the US Govt will block any sales if the tech is 'too advanced' to put in Chinese hands
They will if they think people will buy them, for example Dell have offered Opteron based servers at many pricing levels in the past and not just the bargain bucket.
Remains to be seen whether AMD can churn out anything that IT departments will actually want. AMD need to offer something Intel don't or better performance per £/Watt, they desperately need a solid reason to buy over a Xeon or POWER based server.
Was thinking of last year's embargo preventing Intel updating various Chinese supercomputers eg http://www.pcworld.com/article/29086...-projects.html
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