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    Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    As a reminder, it was fined for abusing its market dominance between 2002 and 2009.
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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    xD no comment

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Should be increased to $12 billion instead.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Myss_tree View Post
    Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.
    What an interesting idea. I like it. I'm not sure the EU is a big enough market to have a competitor jump into the space in a big way, but it's a neat thought that might encourage some smaller folks or China to give it a go.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how "capitalist" your allowed to be.......
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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how "capitalist" your allowed to be.......
    Which indeed there is. People want the work in progress bit of capitalism, not the steady state conclusion where the best out-competes all its competitors to death.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Which indeed there is. People want the work in progress bit of capitalism, not the steady state conclusion where the best out-competes all its competitors to death.
    and monopoly position is the death of free market economics, hence anti-monopoly oversight and laws regarding adequate competition...

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Nifl View Post
    Should be increased to $12 billion instead.
    Even then it would only be a single years net income for Intel, they should double it and give half to AMD.

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how "capitalist" your allowed to be.......
    And with good reason, capitalism doesn't have morals or ethics, capitalism would be the death of us all if it wasn't for rules, regulations, and laws, I'm not knocking capitalism BTW, it's a great thing but like a fire can keep you warm and cook your food it can also burn down you house if left unchecked.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Myss_tree View Post
    Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.
    You might as well just completely shut down Intel as a company then. Everything in value to the Intel brand would plummet, maybe even beyond recovery.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Ogami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Myss_tree View Post
    Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.
    You might as well just completely shut down Intel as a company then. Everything in value to the Intel brand would plummet, maybe even beyond recovery.
    I wonder how critical patent protection really is in preserving and promoting Intel's technological and production capability lead from competition.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    That's an absurd idea, AMD has been making x86 processors for ages and intel is still going strong.

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    What an interesting idea. I like it. I'm not sure the EU is a big enough market to have a competitor jump into the space in a big way, but it's a neat thought that might encourage some smaller folks or China to give it a go.
    Does ARM have an x86 licence?

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    Does ARM have an x86 licence?
    Not as far as I know, only AMD and Intel.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Not as far as I know, only AMD and Intel.
    And VIA.

    Pretty sure IBM have permenant license rights, but can't see them bothering to use it.

    The 386 should be well out of patent protection by now, in fact the Pentium is over 20 years old too. It seems there is an open source x86: http://opencores.org/project,zet86

    Though I would have thought that working on an x86 is considered like working on the Trabant of the CPU world and other projects are more interesting for people to dabble in as a hobby.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    I'm suing everyone , I still have the patent rights for the Abacus. Intel was underhand in their practices and they know it , probably like 90% of all businesses out their. Ethics don't apply when it comes to big companies.

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    Re: Intel continues to fight $1.2 billion EU antitrust fine

    How many, and which other national governments are doing this as well?

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