Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
DWhitley
Is detection possible technically?
Potentially perhaps, but only if WiFi is being used presumably. Even then, the standard of proof might be difficult to obtain.
Maybe they will go the ITV Player route and require an account to be set up.
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
Eh, detection isn't really possible for using a TV either
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
Xlucine
Eh, detection isn't really possible for using a TV either
I seem to remember from Comms Theory years ago that it was, just impractical. Something to do with applying a frequency to decode the signal, which in turn would be transmitted through the aerial and could be detected.
I can certainly see the pros and cons to the TV licence, and this seems a sensible step for them to make. For now, I am not opposed to it. However, I can also it slowly dying due to streaming through other services. Unless they expanded licensing to include PC's/phones/tablets (or just an Internet connection), I cannot see how they can continue without direct funding via the Government. Sky I guess could be an indirect source; you need a TV licence to apply for it I would think, like buying a TV at a shop and they check?
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
TBH, I don't know what the big deal is, as long as you aren't required to have a licence just for the privilege of having a TV to to play games, watch BD/DVD etc.
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
I don't have a tv license, and only use TV for games/streaming netflix, etc. I do miss the morning news being on in the background, but that's what the radio is for...
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
Looks like the same route (requiring a login) as ITV's Player will be used after all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37477229
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
Output
didn't think the honesty box approach would work, but..
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Originally Posted by BBC
From Tuesday, BBC ID holders also have to add a postcode to their account information.
TV Licensing will have access to the information but the BBC says it will not be used for enforcement purposes.
So, sign up for a free BBC ID, whack in any old postcode. Job done, right?
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
virtuo
didn't think the honesty box approach would work, but..
So, sign up for a free BBC ID, whack in any old postcode. Job done, right?
The full BBC report says postcode won't be used for enforcement purposes at the moment, but may be in future.
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
peterb
The full BBC report says postcode won't be used for enforcement purposes at the moment, but may be in future.
At that point, I'd think they would probably also add the requirement for the house/flat number.
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
Output
At that point, I'd think they would probably also add the requirement for the house/flat number.
They are going to struggle to verify that unless they send out a postal verification code or something, which'll cost them.
It all sounds rather flaky to me, and they are just using FUD to spook people in to paying for a license. Not that people shouldn't pay if they use the service, but for those who don't want to pay, I think it'll be easy to get away with.
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
virtuo
They are going to struggle to verify that unless they send out a postal verification code or something, which'll cost them.
It all sounds rather flaky to me, and they are just using FUD to spook people in to paying for a license. Not that people shouldn't pay if they use the service, but for those who don't want to pay, I think it'll be easy to get away with.
Link the account to the TV license number and then compare registered addresses.
Re: BBC will close iPlayer licensing 'loophole' on 1st Sept
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Originally Posted by
peterb
Link the account to the TV license number and then compare registered addresses.
That's what I thought they were going to do when this was all first announced - but I've never seen anything saying that's what they will do.
What can they do about account sharing? I could "register" my BBC ID against someone else's licensed property - are they going to put in the technology to monitor IPs against accounts? I could legitimately be using different IPs and even ISPs and they'd have to drag me through court to prove otherwise.
Will they only allow one license per ID?
Brain-dump questions, but it still doesn't look to me like it'll hold up technology-wise. I think the best they can do is try and set a strong precedent and take a lot of people to court early on, specifically for using iPlayer without a license - but it's risky if they can't go in with concrete evidence.