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    AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Leaving the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 and above running rampant for quite some time.
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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Can AMD just take my money already? Geez... what's with all these delays? The first revision of the GPUs/CPUs is gonna be terrible anyway. It always is with AMD and Intel, and sometimes Nvidia. They should rely more on the paying beta testers. Just like software companies

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Quote Originally Posted by Nifl View Post
    Can AMD just take my money already? Geez... what's with all these delays? The first revision of the GPUs/CPUs is gonna be terrible anyway. It always is with AMD and Intel, and sometimes Nvidia. They should rely more on the paying beta testers. Just like software companies
    It'll be a really surreal feeling when AMD has a new CPU on the market. Vishera was 2012....dang

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Note that with investor documents, AMD would give the most pessimistic date for launch, probably allowing for a couple of failed steppings and the like.

    So with luck, it may be earlier in H1 rather than later in H1, but that doesn't mean that they won't launch on June 30th... it is AMD after all.

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    There is both Vega 10 and Vega 11 - it could be one launches earlier in the year and one later during the 1H 2017 period. However,by then Nvidia should have the GTX1080TI released as well. I do wonder if AMD will still be using GF though??

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Jeez, this is terrible. Now NV has effectively 6 months or more to sell their top cards and bin for a response (1080ti or whatever) to vega. By the time vega ships NV will have sold to the entire high end crowd for this gen and be announcing new products especially if they're actually Q2 here. Since they don't say Q1, rather H1, it will be past march. They miss the entire xmas season. Nice work console chips. AMD never should have taken the first console, let alone a re-up to do it again. Both Zen and Vega should be out NOW or before xmas in MASS quantity, or risk losing any chance of profits on either (may be relevant in server stuff still though). Zen had better be able to win in more than just a cherry-picked benchmark and it had better smoke broadwell-E since it will be facing something else already. Core i7-7700K features 4 cores, 8 threads, 6MB cache and 95W TDP coming ~Dec16 (and a HEDT replacement probably some time next year). Something tells me this quad will win most of the games vs. AMD's 8 but I hope not. Unfortunately for AMD most games don't see much more than a fast quad as shown by Intel's own 6-10 core chips being beaten by their own quad in many games.

    Maybe AMD will sell the same chip as 8/6/6/4 (much like Intel with 10/8/6/6) with failing parts of the chip disabled or something (slowed down maybe like 6800k). Bring on something that matches or beats a 6800k (in EVERYTHING) please AMD or even higher. I want at least 6 cores for my next upgrade (too much ripping etc to do). I hope this ZEN chip is roughly xbox1/ps4 sized. That would likely be a winner and a HUGE profit maker. If they can make a 363mm^2 chip for $100 and sell it to MSFT for 110-115, make ZEN that big and sell it for $300-1500 or something (assuming it competes well with Intel's HEDT chips). Use your apu's later for low end people. Aim high first or you won't make much profit. The money is in the high-end. Sure I'd like a great deal too, but AMD needs some profit and we need them IN the high end to make 58% margins again. Zen should be aiming at $300+ market. PERIOD.

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Quote Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post
    Jeez, this is terrible. Now NV has effectively 6 months or more to sell their top cards and bin for a response (1080ti or whatever) to vega. By the time vega ships NV will have sold to the entire high end crowd for this gen and be announcing new products especially if they're actually Q2 here. Since they don't say Q1, rather H1, it will be past march. They miss the entire xmas season. Nice work console chips. AMD never should have taken the first console, let alone a re-up to do it again. Both Zen and Vega should be out NOW or before xmas in MASS quantity, or risk losing any chance of profits on either (may be relevant in server stuff still though). Zen had better be able to win in more than just a cherry-picked benchmark and it had better smoke broadwell-E since it will be facing something else already. Core i7-7700K features 4 cores, 8 threads, 6MB cache and 95W TDP coming ~Dec16 (and a HEDT replacement probably some time next year). Something tells me this quad will win most of the games vs. AMD's 8 but I hope not. Unfortunately for AMD most games don't see much more than a fast quad as shown by Intel's own 6-10 core chips being beaten by their own quad in many games.

    Maybe AMD will sell the same chip as 8/6/6/4 (much like Intel with 10/8/6/6) with failing parts of the chip disabled or something (slowed down maybe like 6800k). Bring on something that matches or beats a 6800k (in EVERYTHING) please AMD or even higher. I want at least 6 cores for my next upgrade (too much ripping etc to do). I hope this ZEN chip is roughly xbox1/ps4 sized. That would likely be a winner and a HUGE profit maker. If they can make a 363mm^2 chip for $100 and sell it to MSFT for 110-115, make ZEN that big and sell it for $300-1500 or something (assuming it competes well with Intel's HEDT chips). Use your apu's later for low end people. Aim high first or you won't make much profit. The money is in the high-end. Sure I'd like a great deal too, but AMD needs some profit and we need them IN the high end to make 58% margins again. Zen should be aiming at $300+ market. PERIOD.
    I don't think AMD's worrying too much, they've got the Xbox one S, the PS4 Slim, Neo and the Nintendo NX coming out over the next few months which is way more profit than they make from the PC market, not to mention Zen will pretty much be an advertising piece for the next generation to show they're up to standard while upsetting Intel's marketing strategy for a generation (based on the benchmarks available for the 8 core Zen and assuming a slightly less than 6800k price tag for it). Their production of console chips also gives them a lot of leverage in the gaming industry so they can push for greater thread usage, something that's already happened by the way as there are a good few AAA titles which are greatly advantaged by an i7 over an i5, not a majority but enough that it's worth the investment.

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Glad I bought my 1070. Waiting for almost (possibly) 9 months to release something that compares to Nvidias high end cards seems like a silly move. If they don't grind Nvidias cards into the dust and ACTUALLY compete on performance = game over AMD.
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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    Quote Originally Posted by neonplanet40 View Post
    ... Waiting for almost (possibly) 9 months to release something that compares to Nvidias high end cards seems like a silly move. ...
    I'm really confused as to why people think AMD are "waiting" to release products. I'm sure they'll release Vega as soon as it's available in volume, but lets not forget that the Vega family are all going to be HBM2 cards, which means they need reliable volume of reasonably priced HBM2 before they can even think about launching the card. nvidia have stolen a march this time round whilst AMD were concentrating on the mainstream volume market. Only time will tell how Vega performs - it might be like a GTX 10-series card, or it might be way faster. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out.

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    Re: AMD investor slide touts enthusiast Vega H1 2017 launch

    I am not sure if the money is really in high end, i actually think the big money is in the middle.
    When i look around at my friends machines they almost all buy a 980, 980ti, 1060 or 1070
    Only a few bought the 1080 or the titan x which is way too expenssive for such a bad cooled card.
    The guy having 2 of these t-x is constant looking at 2 cards trothling about 90% of the time... you should hear him curse at nvidia... AMD on the other hand should learn from such mistakes and make sure that when they DO lauch a very good product that the card gets a very good cooler instead the cheap crap nvidia put on the 1300 euro card.

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