Rumours of both a GeForce GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti for October

[HEXUS]

The GTX 1050 Ti is expected to launch first, sometime in mid-October.

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[Corky34]

Still can't shake that nails down the blackboard feeling when i see the 1060 3GB & 6GB listed like they are, it's made even worse now with a suspected 1050 2GB & 4GB being called 1050 and 1050 Ti for similar spec changes.

[sykobee]

Hmm, the standard 1050 looks likely to have a difficult time competing against the 2GB R460 which is cheaper and more powerful (on paper, but likely also in reality, especially DX12/VK).

The 1050Ti might compete okay against the 4GB 460s though, mainly because these are a bit expensive for what they offer.

Most buyers would be way better off pay a little bit more for something better, a 4GB 470 for example.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Since AMD cut down the Polaris 11 GPU used in the RX460 quite a bit,I expect the GTX1050TI 4GB will be an easy victory over the RX460 4GB.

[DanceswithUnix]

Since AMD cut down the Polaris 11 GPU used in the RX460 quite a bit,I expect the GTX1050TI 4GB will be an easy victory over the RX460 4GB.

Yes, but then the 1050 looks to be just slightly faster than the 950 which is £140 to £150, so it will no doubt be slightly more expensive than the 950. Call it £150 for the 1050, so maybe £170 for the 1050ti, you are more up against the 470 than the 460.

[kryton666]

Since AMD cut down the Polaris 11 GPU used in the RX460 quite a bit,I expect the GTX1050TI 4GB will be an easy victory over the RX460 4GB.

Yes, but then the 1050 looks to be just slightly faster than the 950 which is £140 to £150, so it will no doubt be slightly more expensive than the 950. Call it £150 for the 1050, so maybe £170 for the 1050ti, you are more up against the 470 than the 460.

Pricing has to be cheaper,who is going to buy 1050ti for £170 way to close to the 3gb 1060(which is only 10%ish slower than 6gb).
http://www.ebuyer.com/756396-palit-geforce-gtx-1060-dual-3gb-gddr5-dual-link-dvi-hdmi-3x-displayport-ne51060015f9-1061d

[DanceswithUnix]

Pricing has to be cheaper,who is going to buy 1050ti for £170 way to close to the 3gb 1060(which is only 10%ish slower than 6gb).
http://www.ebuyer.com/756396-palit-g...060015f9-1061d

Who is going to buy a 1060 3GB when the 1060 6GB is so much better for a bit more money? Slippery slope...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yes, but then the 1050 looks to be just slightly faster than the 950 which is £140 to £150, so it will no doubt be slightly more expensive than the 950. Call it £150 for the 1050, so maybe £170 for the 1050ti, you are more up against the 470 than the 460.

From what I gathered the rumours state that the GTX1050TI is more like £130 to £140 which is closer to the RX460 4GB. I suspect the GTX1050TI will be a bit faster than a GTX960,whilst being bus powered and having better DX12 performance. If the pound were stronger,it probably would launch at close to the GTX950 2GB price in the UK.

The full Polaris 11 GPU has 14% more shaders than the version which found its way into the RX460 2GB and 4GB. If even the 4GB version had the full chip,I suspect it would have easily hit GTX960 level performance,so Nvidia has a nice easy target in the RX460 4GB.

[Tunnah]

Who would buy a 2GB card that is ridiculous even for low end systems.

[Jowsey]

Who would buy a 2GB card that is ridiculous even for low end systems.

I think in a lot of these cards you run out of sheer graphical grunt before you run out of VRAM. I still rock a GTX 770 afterall and very rarely max out the VRAM on a 1080p monitor. Perhaps I'm just not playing the right games?

[Tunnah]

I think in a lot of these cards you run out of sheer graphical grunt before you run out of VRAM. I still rock a GTX 770 afterall and very rarely max out the VRAM on a 1080p monitor. Perhaps I'm just not playing the right games?

Most definitely the wrong games. I have dual 670s, and the lack of VRAM is absolutely killing them. Batman Arkham Knight (yeah yeah I know it's a ####show, it runs fine for me), Doom, Rise Of The Tomb Raider, Just Cause 3, Witcher 3, GTA V, Assassin's Creed whateverthelastonewas are examples of games where I couldn't turn up the settings due to a lack of VRAM.

Texture quality setting tends to be more about VRAM than anything else.

I know having 2 gives me a leg up in grunt, but for over a year I only had 1 (long story, nobody cares), and quite a lot of the time the same applied. So these new cards I'd say have the same power as my 2 cards.

Also most new games coming up, 2GB won't cut it for even the lowest setting at 1080p

EDIT: Speculation on Just Cause 3, I've not got it, I just remember 3GB being the minimum for 1080p. Rest I've played

[Jowsey]

Most definitely the wrong games. I have dual 670s, and the lack of VRAM is absolutely killing them. Batman Arkham Knight (yeah yeah I know it's a ####show, it runs fine for me), Doom, Rise Of The Tomb Raider, Just Cause 3, Witcher 3, GTA V, Assassin's Creed whateverthelastonewas are examples of games where I couldn't turn up the settings due to a lack of VRAM.

Texture quality setting tends to be more about VRAM than anything else.

I know having 2 gives me a leg up in grunt, but for over a year I only had 1 (long story, nobody cares), and quite a lot of the time the same applied. So these new cards I'd say have the same power as my 2 cards.

Also most new games coming up, 2GB won't cut it for even the lowest setting at 1080p

EDIT: Speculation on Just Cause 3, I've not got it, I just remember 3GB being the minimum for 1080p. Rest I've played

The point i'm trying to get across isn't that 2GB is enough (it's not for high res textures @1080p and beyond) but that those cards, even with plenty of VRAM probably wouldn't be able to play modern AAA games at 1080p on high, or more, because they don't have enough processing power. So there is very little point in putting large amounts of VRAM on them as it just increases the cost of the card. 2 670's in SLI is roughly equivalent to a 980 (purely based on http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html) so that obviously is going to suffer from only having 2GB of VRAM.

[Tunnah]

The point i'm trying to get across isn't that 2GB is enough (it's not for high res textures @1080p and beyond) but that those cards, even with plenty of VRAM probably wouldn't be able to play modern AAA games at 1080p on high, or more, because they don't have enough processing power. So there is very little point in putting large amounts of VRAM on them as it just increases the cost of the card. 2 670's in SLI is roughly equivalent to a 980 (purely based on http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html) so that obviously is going to suffer from only having 2GB of VRAM.

I never realized my 2 cards had that much grunt. Now I'm even more annoyed they don't have more VRAM ha.

I get what you're saying, but I'm saying by only having 2GB they will be severely limited by that. There are games now where 2GB causes slowdown purely because of the 2GB, even with settings on minimum. There will be games soon that won't let you run at 1080p at all, because the textures are simply too big.

[aniilv]

I never realized my 2 cards had that much grunt. Now I'm even more annoyed they don't have more VRAM ha.

I get what you're saying, but I'm saying by only having 2GB they will be severely limited by that. There are games now where 2GB causes slowdown purely because of the 2GB, even with settings on minimum. There will be games soon that won't let you run at 1080p at all, because the textures are simply too big.

What game on minimum settings uses more than 2GB vram? Or even 1.5GB? I get you don't think 2gb vram is enough, but jeez, theres no need to make stuff up.

[Tunnah]

What game on minimum settings uses more than 2GB vram? Or even 1.5GB? I get you don't think 2gb vram is enough, but jeez, theres no need to make stuff up.

Are you serious ? Mate re-read my posts. Or do like 5mins of research about upcoming games

Games coming out in the near future will require more than 2GB VRAM to have even the lowest textures on 1080p

(Oh, also, Batman Arkham Knight, Doom, Just Cause 3 all use more than 2GB VRAM at the lowest settings at 1080p, Rise Of The Tomb Raider uses just under on the lowest)

[DanceswithUnix]

Games coming out in the near future will require more than 2GB VRAM to have even the lowest textures on 1080p

Nice though it would be to have at least 4GB on all cards these days, some minimum specs...

Batman Arkham Knight: Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660, Graphics Memory: 2 GB
Just cause 3: Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2GB) / AMD Radeon HD 7870 (2GB)
Doom: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2GB) / AMD Radeon HD 7870 (2GB) or better

More interesting is that a GTX 670 has more than twice the shaders and twice the bus width than a 1050. Even allowing for higher clocks and generational improvements, I am expecting this card to be on the ropes from lack of shader power before long the marginal amount of vram gets it.

Edit: I think that is kind of the point with these low end cards. Who are they aimed at? Not you and me, but for the likes of my daughter who plays things like Minecraft and Spore it would be fine. I gather games like DOTA aren't that taxing on graphics, and there are still about 6M people playing WoW and this card would do an OK job of that.