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    Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Now available to pre-order starting at $649/£599 in the US, UK, Canada, Australia.
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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Well as a previous Nexus 5 owner I'm really disappointed. I was expecting to be but that pricing is crazy. I've never understood how Apple got away with £600 phones so considering the less keen fan base google has I understand it even less. I guess they are trying to chase the iphone buyers but they are chasing old fans like me away. This seems a little worrying for google as I know people like me will be more likely to start looking at cheaper chinese alternatives which aren't running Google's android (i.e oneplus's OS (Oxygen?) or Xiaomi's MIUI). Could this loose Google's Android some market share?
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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    It seems overpriced compared to Samsung, HTC and Sony's line etc.

    I can see it's priced against Apple but it was overpriced too (as always) given that similar technology (better in regards to screen quality etc) has been released for a while from Samsung etc with the S7 and has come down in price.

    A Samsung S7 can be had for £489 new - http://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/sm-g930fzsabtu/samsung-smg930fzsabtu-galaxy-s7-smartphone?tduid=f04b56b26ab669e45a2d07781dd7ce0f&utm_source=digidip+UK_2142931&utm_medium=tradedoub ler

    The pixel is more expensive but isn't as good of a phone (in my opinion). This phone from Google really needed to be released months ago.
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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    _Starts_ at £600!? That's quite pricey.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    It amuses me that the difference in size between the "small" Pixel and the "large" Pixel XL is about 1 cm at most (height). Would it have been too much to ask for the Pixel to have e.g. a 4.7" screen instead?
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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    lold irl

    google trying to be apple

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    ""The best smartphone camera,"

    I'll believe that once the reviews roll in and then, obviously, take the reviews with a pinch of salt. People initially stated that the Microsoft 950 took better pictures than the 1020... Not so (Might now be the case after numerous updates).

    Reviewers lie.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    LG V20 is capable of the best photos a the moment from what I've seen.

    Followed by the S7 then the S6 / OnePlus 3....then Nexus 5X/6P, Huawei P9, LG G4, iPhone 7 is approximately that order.

    User experience / ease of use also comes into play, but in terms of raw *potential* image quality. I'd say that list is pretty close.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    User experience / ease of use also comes into play, but in terms of raw *potential* image quality. I'd say that list is pretty close.
    Where would you insert "cheap point & squirt digital camera" in the middle of that?

    I gave up trying to get good photos from phones years ago, my £450 HTC One X which was right up there with the best phones would struggle against a £40 camera, and looked just awful compared to a £60 camera. Have things improved much, or does the tiddly little lens just mean it will never be actually good?

    Edit: My Sony Aqua M4 got an upgrade to Android 6.0.1 today keeping its place of an entire Android revision out of date, hurrah!

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    HTC haven't had good cameras before this year's HTC 10, and that's simply adequate. Check the HTC 10, vs the LG V20 and Samsung S7 here:

    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=7821

    I normally go straight to the low light sample and top right corner to look at the noise around the coloured rubber bands. Clear differences in image detail.

    Then in good light:

    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=7821

    I prefer the V20 over the S7, as the S7 is over processed in my opinion, the V20 gives a more natural effect.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    This seems a little worrying for google as I know people like me will be more likely to start looking at cheaper chinese alternatives which aren't running Google's android (i.e oneplus's OS (Oxygen?)
    Oxygen is Android. Even the Chinese non-Google phones are mostly still Android, just not using Google services on top of it.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Where would you insert "cheap point & squirt digital camera" in the middle of that?

    I gave up trying to get good photos from phones years ago, my £450 HTC One X which was right up there with the best phones would struggle against a £40 camera, and looked just awful compared to a £60 camera. Have things improved much, or does the tiddly little lens just mean it will never be actually good?
    Ever since s6/s7 phone cameras are better asuming you are ok with no zoom and not making photos in complete darkness where you would use flash. Most of why is down to software and pure power house that phones are these days, you can literally point and squirt even in low light and images come out nice and clear. Things like HDR are making them much better than cheapo digital cameras and pretty good against high cost compact cameras. Ofc pointless comparing to optical cameras since nothing can change the fact there is such a little sensor/lens.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Oxygen is Android. Even the Chinese non-Google phones are mostly still Android, just not using Google services on top of it.
    That's my point??? I've always had Google android phones since my n95 until I semirecently got a miui based Chinese import. I'm not the only one I know moving away from Google android. Are Google risking loosing the bit that makes them money and drives android forward?

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    https://www.dxomark.com/

    Here's the source of the camera claim

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    That's my point??? I've always had Google android phones since my n95 until I semirecently got a miui based Chinese import. I'm not the only one I know moving away from Google android. Are Google risking loosing the bit that makes them money and drives android forward?
    Sorry I'm missing the point - they're still using Google's Android. Even Miui is Google's Android. To avoid using Google's Android you need to move to iOS or Windows Phone.

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    Re: Google introduces Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones with Android 7.1

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Sorry I'm missing the point - they're still using Google's Android. Even Miui is Google's Android. To avoid using Google's Android you need to move to iOS or Windows Phone.
    Android without the Google bits is just an open source OS like Linux (in fact it could almost be considered a fork of linux!). It makes Google no money if it doesn't have their extras. Google need people to buy their flavour of it.

    In short Android does not equal Google.
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