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Oh dear, as i expected.....another generation without a Nintendo machine worth buying.
Yet another boring, underpowered failure that the fanboys are going to defend as if it was their life and anyone with half a brain left won't touch.
Rinse and repeat in 4-5 years with 0 price drops in between..
In other words: Welcome to the world of Nintendo.
At least Nvidia got a win for Tegra!! :p
Having said that,it will be quite interesting to see how fast it is. The PS Vita is not far off a PS3. If the SOC is suitably powerful it might make it faster than a Wii U.
Custom Tegra chip apparently. Hopefully closer to Tegra 2 than 1..
I suspect it might be a Parker derived chip:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10596/...parker-details
So a Pascal GPU and a Denver CPU.
They'd do better re-releasing the SNES
And that's not even a joke.
My sources say it's definitely using a Cortex core, not Denver.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Which makes it X1.
Maxwell GPU, ~830M
Have I just missed a source for it being a Tegra chip, or has that come from somewhere else? Can't see it anywhere in this article or the linked blog post... :confused:
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/1...ntendo-switch/Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryjim
Probably a bit quicker due to the DDR4 interface I suspect?? That should make it faster than the AMD Latte chip in the Wii U whilst supporting a much new featureset.Quote:
Originally Posted by directhex
I suspect Nintendo is going this way since their handheld consoles seem to still be doing OK.
Nice. Now all I need to see are the games.
If it's X1, then it's 500 GFLOPS - not even 2x Wii U. Nobody measures 16-bit FP operations, although they might make it a bit faster in certain places.
Great for a handheld. But let's be honest, this is a handheld, it's the new replace-all for 3DS, DS, etc.
Nah, I think it's a custom Tegra, like Nvidia say. 512-cores. Denver+A53. 800 GFLOPS+.
Could be an interesting thing, it's nice to see a tablet focused on ergonomics rather than thinness.
I suspect make or break for it will be the rest of the platform. If it's gaming-only or lousy at general tablet stuff then I'd find it a lot less tempting.
Haven't owned a Nintendo console since the N64 but this is tempting. It's tempting because rather than try and compete with the power of PC gaming it complements it and fills in the gaps:
A powerful handheld with the nintendo IPs, ease of portability and controls which facilitate easy co-op make this look quite attractive for me (Though i do see it more as a handheld than anything else). Throw in some decent multimedia capabilities and i'll be all for it.
It's not Denver.Quote:
Originally Posted by sykobee
So either it's X1, or some magical specially created chip with Cortex CPU & post-Maxwell GPU. The former is MUCH more likely, given the thermal concerns of this going in a tablet.
Nintendo seem more 'Think Different' than Apple these days... always a risky proposition not to go with the flow though...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...y-nvidia-tegraQuote:
Originally Posted by directhex
I'm somewhat interested in it. I kind of wanted a WiiU but decided that for the cost of it, it's not worth it for the low performance. I do have a 3ds which again isn't that great cost performance wise. So again it will depend on the cost, and even though it may not be an amazing step up, combining the home console and portable markets could work well. I'm not totally convinced on the controllers though.
I wonder how many people skipped the Wii-U and so are ripe for a Nintendo fix :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FRISH
Personally I got the Wii-U just for Mario Kart.
Edit: I thought Nvidia said it wasn't worth doing consoles? ;)
Offering a tablet to the console market will be a tricky sell with only 17% of the performance of the PS4 pro. I think this is going to need to be well priced to be a success outside of Japan.
They're not! They're doing a tablet :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Uh oh - I sense flame wars a-brewing:Quote:
Originally Posted by directhex
"It's a CONSOLE"
"It's a TABLET"
Wonder what horrid portmanteau term will get foisted on it....
EDIT: as an aside though, they could almost certainly make huge sales out of providing emulators for NES/SNES/GB/GBA and running a retro game download store - my cheap-ass android gamblet from three years ago makes a great GBA emulator.... ;)
very interesting, kudos for Nintendo bringing out something different but some what lacking; from What people really wanted from the NeXT Nintendo project. I was thinking they would go for a more standard console with the bells and whistles. For the age market its aimed at i think this is spot on. Those small controllers look way too small to hold on larger hands. I'm sure Nintendo will have a nice list of games to backup the /Switch/ lets hope it comes at a nice price.
The dreamcast lives again! The wireless mobile co-op looks like the most interesting part of it, it's a big step up from what's been possible in the past. I don't see much use for connecting it to a TV - that invites comparisons with the other consoles, which are a lot more proficient with grpahics. TFLOPS doesn't automatically equal good gameplay, but on a big screen the differences in fidelity with less-stylised games will be hard to ignore - did I see skyrim in the trailer?
Consider this: The Wii U is Nintendo's last ever home console.
This is a 3DS successor. It has a dock - so what? So do plenty of mobile phones & tablets.
This is a nice move by nintendo, there is no reason for another PC-like console out there, the 2 from sony and MS already are more than enough for a saturated market.
Actually nintendo is trying to give a reason for someone already owning a pc or/and another console to buy their machine, just like what happened with wii.
I don't know if this is gonna work, but nintendo always aimed to a more toy-like machine and this helped ninty survive with wii, there where "serious" games, but what got the people into wii was the casual gaming that you can enjoy with friends who are not really into videogames. I could play a wii game with my girlfriend and have a lot of fun, but there is now way to have a lot of fun playing something else from the games that I enjoy as a pc gamer.
This certainly has some attractive elements. Like the idea of split screen gaming with my son when away from home.
Looks like a great idea to me. Interesting that the video didn't feature much in the way of kids playing on it!
Nintendo don't ever produce consoles for the COD-gamer. But as we all know, you should be doing your hard-core gaming behind a desk on a PC. For fun casual gaming, this looks like a great idea - battery life will be important though. The control system looks much better than just using a tablet for gaming during your commute etc.
And it's great for parents too. Kid playing on the TV and you want to watch it? Tell them to naff off and they can carry on the game - none of this "but I'll lose my game!" that we risked as kids.
Not that I'll get one, I play games out the way on my PC.
They need to heavily market this as a handheld replacement that CAN be docked to be played on a big screen if wanted, otherwise people are going to see it as a competitor to ps4/x1 which it obviously isn't!
Impressed with the concept, not concerned about the power of the hardware, considering it will likely only ever run Mario games which hardly push the envelope.
Unless they open their portfolio I expect they will find it difficult to penetrate the market like they did in their heydays, tablets these days have quite a wide variety of games that isn't restricted to classic Nintendo favorites.
I don't get all the hate in the comments, this is the first nintendo since the N64 which has showed a lot of potential. Yes its not as tflop crazy as the next xbox but least its not using stupid wii (hand waving) gimmicks. To me this sounds like a system built for gamers rather than a wider audience, and even sounds as if it has decent third party support.
After watching the video, it does look like nicely polished concept. Some things I'd be worried about though - the controls seem small, the "tablet" itself runs the risk of being underpowered (or at least compared directly with more powerful tablets), and having detachable parts on a portable is asking for trouble.
I think my favourite "feature "was being able to use the controller parts wirelessly like little wiimotes - I can imagine a market for reselling Wii classics Virtual-Console style for this.
Wii Golf on a plane?
why the negativity guys?
I like the idea of removable side controllers to allow multiplayer, with the docking station at home
Why kick Nintendo? What makes it less good that old gen?
Sorta depends on what you expect from a console.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zak33
The easy way to be positive: it is the replacement for the 3DS, not the Wii U - and holy #### does it look good compared to the 3DS. Most powerful mobile console EVER.
The easy way to be negative: it is the replacement for the Wii U, but not even in the same league as the main consoles for power, so once again, will get no 3rd party games.
You can buy a system with the Switch's power today - it's called a Google Pixel C. But that's way more expensive, due to the better screen/battery
People already have another alternative to consoles/pc. its called a iphone 7/S7/ipadQuote:
Originally Posted by nitro912gr
Until I know what it can do, I'm not going to get very excited about it. I would be happy if it was as powerful as the xbox one or ps4. But as it's in tablet form, to me, it'll just be like a phone. Crap battery, overheating... Wouldn't have minded if the home dock thing actually had an external cpu/gpu/apu, to make it run better in home mode, but it'll just be a tablet cast onto a tv. Hopefully I'm proven wrong, I like Nintendo games
I never managed to enjoy gaming in my tablet or smartphone, let along to enjoy it with other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408
I kind of have the feeling that this is gonna be another WiiU debacle. I don't want giant hand-held screen as a gaming device. I want a console that I plug in to my TV! Nintendo, rewind all the way back to the Wii and try again!
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-spec-analysisQuote:
Originally Posted by directhex
Don't mean to say "I told you so", but...
The scary thing here is those clock speeds. The CPU is running *half* the speed of 2015's Shield TV. And the GPU is running at 30% or 75% of an 830M.