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    Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Touch Bar is a context sensitive multi-touch OLED panel which replaces the F-key row.
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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    I like the idea of that touch bar!

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Did I jumped somehow to some alternative reality or something?
    Because we expect from Apple what Microsoft showcased and from Microsoft... well we didn't expect anything from Microsoft to begin with...

    And today I was like "Apple will probably show who is the boss in innovations today" and we got a machine with some small touchscreen above the keyboard, which is basically a gimmick, the innovative need for an adaptor for virtually every device you own and you may want to connect to your macbook (yeah even your brand new iPhone 7...) and the removal of the most innovative charging cable in the history of computers (which have saved my macbook a hundred times!), omg they really did removed magsafe!

    It is the same story all over again, like when Jobs was kicked out of apple and they where playing it super safe, with minor changes in their line of products which eventually sent apple almost in bankruptcy. The only problem is that now, there is no Steve Jobs to save the day...

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    And those prices...!
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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Good to see Apple is applying their 'kill all the connectors and never improve the specs' logic to macbook pros, of all things.
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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    LOL.. this is a device aimed at professionals and the only thing professional about it is the price.

    No normal usb sockets or external display without using an (expensive) adapter. Are we supposed to just ditch all our old items...oh right this is apple.... they'll sell me that adapter we shouldn't need.

    They don't even use a professional gpu, just a consumer 'gaming' card.

    A tiny touch screen in one of the most unergonomic places on a laptop which will in most cases be nothing more than f-keys or emojis. Dev's will need to develop for it and that's not necessarily going to happen, even if it is apple, because not all programs have the api to allow that sort of access.

    No magsafe just seems daft considering all the money that was invested in it's development/patents and keeping their lawyers happy going after infringing 3rd parties.

    Then theres the price... how much, I know theres some flux in pricing due to brexit but those prices are just stupid.

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    I guess the creative market is just not big enough for Apple to care about at this stage, but I know a lot of musicians, designers and film editors who have been dedicated to Mac but are very close to switching away. It's a really strange choice they've made in recent years to just stall on performance while increasing prices, providing less value with each year that goes by (and they weren't doing great on that measure anyway). Even if the creative market isn't making enough money to bother with, they ought to realise that a big part of their perceived coolness is the assumption that this is the machine a graphic designer/musician/film director would use.

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Didn't Lenovo already release one or more notebooks with a similar virtual key strip, albeit much less refined?

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Looks pretty sweet

    I like it!

    I like it Bigtime

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Didn't Lenovo already release one or more notebooks with a similar virtual key strip, albeit much less refined?
    Yes pretty sure they did - and the idea (or "innovation") has been available on some PC keyboards for a while now, and for over 10 years on keyboards with reconfigurable actual keys (the keys contained a screen to display function). It is nice to see what looks to be a decent implementation of this on a laptop that might make it slightly more mass market, but it's not revolutionary.

    edit: this is the range - the "Optimus". I really wanted the "Optimum Maximus" back in 2005
    http://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/

    I am normally the first to defend against the typical "Apple Bashing" but they really have just failed to do anything new/clever/interesting in the past few years. Pretty much since Steve Jobs died to be honest. It's not necessarily because the quality has dropped (it hasn't - apple devices still ooze quality) but it's more that the competition has caught up and Apple has not moved on.

    I would much rather buy a surface book than one of these if I was going for an overpriced laptop.

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    I _really_ need a new laptop. My old Macbook Pro is failing, and I've been forced to use a Win10 box as a temporary solution.

    I work in the corporate consulting/architect space, so I need something which can run MS Office but that also has well integrated UNIX tools (as I dip in and out of devops).

    Apple has filled that niche well until recently, but 16GB max? What about if I want to run a couple of VMs for a POC? Sure I can spin stuff up in AWS or whatever, but that's not always convenient.

    Also, if I'm paying nearly £3k for a 13" laptop, I at least want to be able to play the odd game on it, and my experience with Intel Iris previously has been.... suboptimal, and removing the magsafe and ALL of the standard USB ports just seems dumb...

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Not sure if Nitro was trolling, but Apple didn't invent what they call the magsafe connection. Yes, they were (WRONGLY) awarded a patent for it (by the US Patent Office, of course), but magnetically secured power adaptors were in use LONG before the knobs at Apple 'invented' them. They were originally used for appliances such as kettles as a result of people burning themselves after tripping or pulling on the wiring. Despite the (what should be an illegal patent), they still use them countries like China.

    As for the innovative touch bar, I wonder if they got the idea of that from certain turntables from Denon and Pioneer... They're not customisation as they only need to do one job, but hey the idea came from somewhere

    As for the price, well. To be fair to Apple (rare for me to say that), it's not toooo bad given the IPS display specs. Don't get me wrong I'd rather buy a notebook with actual power and cooling from the likes of ASUS or MSI, etc., but then they tend to use much cheaper display panels :/

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    I'm still waiting to see what about these can be described as "groundbreaking… a touch of genius", as there is nothing new here. The touch display has been done on laptops before where the numeric keypad was replaced by an adaptable touch display on larger laptops (not too sure but I think it was MSI who did this). As for specs, they are pretty middle of the road, the only premiuim bit about these laptops would be the price tags.

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Also phones: the LG V10 (Oct 2015) had a second strip-shaped 1040x160 screen above its main screen.

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    No touchscreen!? MS Surface Book is far more desirable imo.

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    Re: Apple shows off thinnest, lightest MacBook Pro ever with Touch Bar

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    I work in the corporate consulting/architect space, so I need something which can run MS Office but that also has well integrated UNIX tools (as I dip in and out of devops).
    Have you tried the new windows 10 linux functionality.

    It's pretty damn cool.
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