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    Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    A 2012 study suggesting otherwise has recently been retracted.
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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Load of old tosh, anyways...

    Shooting accuracy is about supporting the weapon, aligning the sights, holding it for recoil and stability, smoothly operating the actions and managing breathing. That's without even having to deal with aiming off, windage, MoA and so on...

    Almost none of that features in gaming and never to the same levels as in real life.
    Might as well tell me players of driving games make better real-life drivers than those who don't play such things...!!

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Wait.. Researchers actually got paid/funded to look into this?

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Keyboard and mouse, I'm not surprised that theirs no verifiable correlation.

    What about if you're wicked good at something like those Time Crisis arcade machines? Then you are at least mimicking the physical aiming of a real gun... sort of.

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Englander View Post
    What about if you're wicked good at something like those Time Crisis arcade machines? Then you are at least mimicking the physical aiming of a real gun... sort of.
    Most firearms shoot straighter than a Time Crisis machine, though... including muskets!

    If you're dead-on accurate with a Time Crisis machine, then you are already at one with The Force and are ignoring your true calling!!

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Can you use shoulder buttons with real guns for auto-aim?

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    most gamers can't hold a bag of suger at arms length for 2 minutes

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    How it would work out;


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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Maybe with a VR headset and a rifle or pistol controller, I think that I have seen one that even has recoil when you shoot, but I'm not sure how strong it feels

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Macman View Post
    Wait.. Researchers actually got paid/funded to look into this?
    If things like this exist then I need to join in on the action, that is if I get paid.
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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    If you ever shoot from real rifle you would know you can't compare it with mouse our gamepad aiming.
    The more you live, less you die. More you play, more you die. Isn't it great.

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Load of old tosh, anyways...

    Might as well tell me players of driving games make better real-life drivers than those who don't play such things...!!
    I will tell you that, and I will be correct in telling you that. The best GT players can compete with professional drivers. It's not even difficult to believe. Why don't you just write "I tried to play wii but my dentures fell out" next time. It would make you sound a little younger.

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Telekloud View Post
    I will tell you that, and I will be correct in telling you that. The best GT players can compete with professional drivers. It's not even difficult to believe.
    Go on, then - How does training to press a button while sat on a stationary sofa translate to better sensing weight transfer and co-ordinating all four limbs through muscle memory?
    How does moving a thumbstick translate to increased awareness and appropriately measured response?
    How does staring at a 2-D screen translate to greater all-round observation, forward planning and realistic appreciation of one's own mortality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Telekloud View Post
    Why don't you just write "I tried to play wii but my dentures fell out" next time. It would make you sound a little younger.
    Because until you can put on your big boy pants and show me some hard evidence, I will happily remain sounding the old fogey with experience than the kid who knows nothing.

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Because until you can put on your big boy pants and show me some hard evidence, I will happily remain sounding the old fogey with experience than the kid who knows nothing.
    lol, and I have to agree with you. I find most people look baffled when you try and explain weight transfer to them.

    I suspect he is confused by: http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/academy/about/

    where people who play the game *are trained* in how to drive a car, starting with thousands of applicants. Well, choose any random selection of people and you will probably find that 0.1% of them when given proper training can handle a car.

    Edit: They would probably have to unlearn anything they got from their game playing first though

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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
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    Might as well tell me players of driving games make better real-life drivers than those who don't play such things...!!
    Ummm


    Greger Huttu, with virtually no training (he only passed his test a few weeks before) driving a Star Mazda very very quickly, only his fitness let him down

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JThaiRKJMzc
    I've met Jann and hes the nicest lad your likely to meet and very very quick in a car


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    Re: Computer FPS players might not be better real-world marksmen

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddAussie View Post
    Greger Huttu, with virtually no training (he only passed his test a few weeks before) driving a Star Mazda very very quickly, only his fitness let him down
    Can't see vids at work, but not really relevant.
    You have cited two people who I assume are ZOMG-AWESOME-AMAZEBALLZ at both activities... they are but two exceptions to a very general rule.

    If the rule were true for all (or just the majority) and very definitely proven, we'd all be training to drive a real car by sitting down and pressing buttons on an Xbox.

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