Very interesting, don't really need an upgrade but I do want to get an NVMe drive and I don't think Z97 as a platform makes the most of it due to not having PCIe 3.0 x4 otherwise I would have been more than fine.
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Very interesting, don't really need an upgrade but I do want to get an NVMe drive and I don't think Z97 as a platform makes the most of it due to not having PCIe 3.0 x4 otherwise I would have been more than fine.
Quite like the look of the ASRock AB350M Pro4 - nice base for a mid-range build...Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJim
How come I am seeing HDMI, VGA and DVI outputs on motherboards? Presumably for future APUs?
Lots of mainboards have that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by this_is_gav
For existing APUs, more to the point. Bristol Ridge APUs for AM4 are already available to OEMs ... whether we'll see them in the channel or whether AMD will just hold out for .. erm, Raven Ridge, I think (getting lost with the code names) ... anyway, for the Zen APUs later in the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by this_is_gav
Personally, I hope we get a range of Bristol Ridge APUs released alongside the motherboards, so there's something to fill out the £100 and lower range with the latest technologies. Given Ryzen goes down to full quad cores which will be a LOT faster than even the last generation Excavator cores in Bristol Ridge, it'd make sense for desktop BR to fill the lower end of the range.
Not just future, the idea was that AM4 is the unified platform and even Bristol Ridge APUs (Excavator) uses AM4:Quote:
Originally Posted by this_is_gav
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...16.2C_28_nm.29
However, rather than having a flood of AM4 boards out way before launch, it looks like Bristol Ridge only had limited traction*.
Of course, for now, the video ports are not going to get used until Zen APUs come later in the year.
EDIT: *Or as scaryjim said, it was OEM only.
If you want to get an idea of the obtainable overclocks (and can't wait for the reviews), scan are selling factory overclocked PCs with the 1700 @ 3.8GHz and 1700x @ 4GHz and oddly 1800 @ 4GHz
On the plus side, I think a lot of the younger folk look to youtubers like Linus, Jay2c, Pauls Hardware who are all pretty good at offering a balanced opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
There will always be the diehard fans who will stick to their guns but I can see tides changing.
I'll say it again, it is disappointing how few of these boards have 5 gigabit ethernet. I was hoping the ASRock X370 Taichi would have it, but it is only on ASRock's top end board.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJim
Well, the initial release certainly was. I'm pretty sure AMD claimed they'd be released in the channel eventually, but I have a feeling that most mobo manufacturers were unhappy releasing AM4 motherboards when the only processors for them would've been significantly weaker than anything Intel was offering. AM4 boards make a much more enticing case when there's a set of very competitive processors to go in them. Now the boards are released, AMD might release Bristol Ridge to the channel so there's a full range of processors available. Or they might sit tight until Zen APUs are available for the channel: otherwise there'll be a lot of FM2+ products in warehouses that are never going to sell...Quote:
Originally Posted by kompukare
Not convinced that's really an issue is it? How many people currently have 5Gbps switches or routers? How many Intel boards have 5Gbps ethernet? I suspect they'll save that for the server boards...Quote:
Originally Posted by CAPTAIN_ALLCAPS
It seems you can overclock individual cores:
http://i.imgur.com/ZwY05FK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZwY05FK.jpg
You can say the same about any new standard or technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryjim
The 5 gigabit standard was approved precisely so that there was an easier and cheaper transition to faster ethernet for home networks. I also recall reading somewhere that 5 gigabit switches and maybe routers are in the pipeline for this year.
It seems a shame to have a new start with Ryzen yet not marry that with the new standard for LAN (except, as far as I can see, the ASRock Professional Gaming - which also looks hideous, but I'll stick it inside a Corsair 600q if I take the plunge). After all, 10G has been sporadically available for Intel's HEDT for a while now.
Interesting how these suddenly become a big deal when Ryzen is launching and not all these years when most of the Intel motherboards probably are stuck in the same boat! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryjim
Well, looks like it's going to be an AMD system, my next one; although ideally I'd like a dual Ryzen system.
Its only feels real when you can put then in your PC parts Picker Builds...so now you can...the universe feels safe.