Read more.And developers demonstrate ForzaTech 4K 60fps performance with power to spare.
Read more.And developers demonstrate ForzaTech 4K 60fps performance with power to spare.
So it's marginally 'better' than a PS4 pro, with Windows 10 watering down the exclusives, and arriving a year later than the competition. Sony will undoubtedly slash their prices as soon as pricing for Scorpio is announced as well. I think it's going to be a tough fight for MS on this one.
1. No Zen Cores. =/
2. Does not matter as Sony has won the console war 55 million PS4's sold and more everyday
As far as I am concerned, the moment they announced XBox play anywhere, Scorpio shipments became reduced.
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HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
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Still tempted as a decent way to get a 4K Bluray player into your home.
It's not marginally better, Richard at DF explicit says it's significantly more powerful than PS4 Pro. He mentioned it even out performed their own Forza PC benchmarks at 4K using top of the line Nvidia GPU's.
The hardware is very good with a better approach to older games which get free enhancements x16 AF, super sampling, all get this no restrictions.
The point of Xbox Anywhere is to grow a digital app store, it's a very smart move and not as you say watering down exclusives.
Scorpio is not going to de-throne the PS4 but it will put MS back in the game (excuse the pun).
Now all they need to do is drop the dumb Xbox One brand name, unfortunately this is one thing I fear they will not do.
Saracen (10-04-2017)
The GPU has long been rumoured to be Vega based.
So, it's a 480? ~10% more cores, ~10% less speed
Without HBM, what is there to call it vega based? the only difference would be the iterative improvements to GCN, which aren't really exclusive to any architecture
Something would be very odd if it wasn't significantly outperforming the PS4P, the extra cores and speed give it 40% more GPU grunt. However, there's no way it's beating a top end nvidia GPU - a partner 1080ti will have twice the compute performance, even with the differences in architecture there's no overcoming that.
Gotta say, I'm super excited for this. The better the consoles are, the less effort they need to put into making PC games to their full potential
Can optimisations really give you 60fps at 4K on a GPU equivalent to a 480?! It just doesn't seem right.
Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive
I hate to sound pessimistic but PS4 has some very good exclusives vs the Xbox one? what are we going to get more HALO, GOW and Forza but in 4K.. unless Microsoft have a load of new gaming i.p. up there sleeve its just more of the same but with a new lick of paint and more polish.
Last edited by Ravens Nest; 08-04-2017 at 05:26 PM.
Saying that its great if you already have a xbox one and want your old games collection 4ked, and you dont have a PC, but as i said exclusives PS4 have more and more original games i.p's unless MS can surprise when they reveal the Scorpio.
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