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    Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Microsoft has added 100 million Windows 10 users in about 8 months.
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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Windows 10 is cancer. The more people are forced in to it because of the lack of support for the older Windows OSs, the more people will be unable to get Microsoft to make some dire changes to Windows 10. No privacy, bloat-ware apps, a horrible UI, a non-transparent update mechanism that doesn't even show how long an update takes or what its size is, terrible placement of important settings and features... I could go on and on.

    Everything Microsoft is pushing is wrong. Forcing DX 12 to work only on Windows 10, pushing a broken app store down user's throats, deliberately cutting out support for older systems through software and hardware...it's too much. Windows 10 is broken - something that has been obviously built through a duct-tape like approach to coding should not be pushed on to customers.

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by fend_oblivion View Post
    Windows 10 is cancer. The more people are forced in to it because of the lack of support for the older Windows OSs, the more people will be unable to get Microsoft to make some dire changes to Windows 10. No privacy, bloat-ware apps, a horrible UI, a non-transparent update mechanism that doesn't even show how long an update takes or what its size is, terrible placement of important settings and features... I could go on and on.

    Everything Microsoft is pushing is wrong. Forcing DX 12 to work only on Windows 10, pushing a broken app store down user's throats, deliberately cutting out support for older systems through software and hardware...it's too much. Windows 10 is broken - something that has been obviously built through a duct-tape like approach to coding should not be pushed on to customers.
    Not a fan then? ;-)

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    I'm still really liking it and every new release build has been better than the last.

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by fend_oblivion View Post
    Windows 10 is cancer. The more people are forced in to it because of the lack of support for the older Windows OSs, the more people will be unable to get Microsoft to make some dire changes to Windows 10. No privacy, bloat-ware apps, a horrible UI, a non-transparent update mechanism that doesn't even show how long an update takes or what its size is, terrible placement of important settings and features... I could go on and on.

    Everything Microsoft is pushing is wrong. Forcing DX 12 to work only on Windows 10, pushing a broken app store down user's throats, deliberately cutting out support for older systems through software and hardware...it's too much. Windows 10 is broken - something that has been obviously built through a duct-tape like approach to coding should not be pushed on to customers.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Borg
    "Resistance is futile - you will be assimilated"
    Well, I won't be - I have no reason (compelling or otherwise) to move away from Windows 7 to another Windows based platform. Win 10 offers nothing that I need, and I don't expect that change anytime soon/at all.
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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Was the last time they checked in with the 400 million number before or after they updated the Xbox to use Windows 10?

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    I'm still really liking it and every new release build has been better than the last.

    If you don't like telemetry, turn it off.
    Agreed, think driver support for most things are getting updated even for the Anniversary edition now which was nice when I reinstalled the other day without a single issue.

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    I have no real issues either apart from some well older hardware not being happy
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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Well, I won't be - I have no reason (compelling or otherwise) to move away from Windows 7 to another Windows based platform. Win 10 offers nothing that I need, and I don't expect that change anytime soon/at all.
    That. Exactly.

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    As we're starting to find out, software developers are forced themselves into an endless upgrade cycle, having to constantly fork out for the latest versions of Visual Studio, continually forced to move versions of the .Net Framework and so on.

    For example, we're going to have to spend somewhere in the region of 500-600 man hours installing .Net 4.7 on client PC's because otherwise our application will not function on Win10 machines due to the withdrawal of support for various cryptographic components. We've had hours of time wasted diagnosing issues that have turned out to be caused by a Win10 update.

    It's not just home users who suffer from Microsoft's endless obsession to become Google, they've lost sight of the fact that their dominance exists because of businesses who all use Windows + MS Office because that's what everyone knows.

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

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    For example, we're going to have to spend somewhere in the region of 500-600 man hours installing .Net 4.7 on client PC's because

    Umm... There's more than 2 automated ways to install that over the domain to all of those computers.

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Only problem with Win 7 is a lack of support for some stuff. If you have legacy stuff then great, but some things I use already run better on Win 10 than 7 and have newer and/or better features.
    Now, of course that is the way that they would like it to be - but regardless it's happening.
    This debate is also going on Mac wise and phone OS wise. It's just another debate that is going to polarise the vast majority
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    One issue I have also found is that the one single cumulative monthly update. If the update breaks something you miss out of all the security fixes as well as the other bug fixes and due to being cumulative you may have to not patch for 2 months due to the breakage. I preferred the older software development cycle major number means big change and minor number means small change so you can get the security patches without having to take some feature changes that could break things. I generally like windows 10 but there are a few things that annoy me and the biggest one is that we have control panel and settings. the change between them is jarring and control panel is more useable IMHO especially for add /remove programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lodore View Post
    One issue I have also found is that the one single cumulative monthly update.
    That's not Windows 10 exclusive, that's the new way MS want to deploy updates.
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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    Umm... There's more than 2 automated ways to install that over the domain to all of those computers.
    Yup, if we weren't talking about supporting an application sold into the small business market where we'd be lucky to have a domain, let alone all the PC's actually being connected to it.

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    Re: Windows 10 up and running on 500 million PCs

    MS is only getting these kinds of numbers because new machines come loaded with this crap. As for telemetry , you can't turn it off , some of it yes but not the root of it , it's embedded into the system.
    I've enjoyed using Windows down the years despite the gaffs and hiccups and Win7 became everything I wanted in an O/S or as close as possible. The ride stops at Win7 for me with MS , soory guys this new piece of garbage can be put on the heap with other foul up Millenium.

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