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    Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    And will release the Thunderbolt Protocol Spec, royalty-free, to the industry.
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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    I'm sure it's nice but I'll wait for "USB 3.1b Type C-II Gen 3 with Superspeed++ 80Gb"

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    It won't become widely accepted until it is ubiquitous on even low end mobos and oem-boards for the likes of Acer/Dell/Lenovo/HP. Right now the only way for most of us to get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon is to buy a stupid-tier motherboard at 2x the price of a "normal" consumer board, which is no way to gain traction.

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Correct me if i am wrongb but isn't thunderbolt Intel proprietary? If they want full mainstream adoption they should share the standard as royalty free or nda share it with AMD. Because if they integrate as well then thats nearly 100% of cpu manufacturers employing it. And if they share with armb then all low power mobile devices will utilise it too?

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Correct me if i am wrongb but isn't thunderbolt Intel proprietary? If they want full mainstream adoption they should share the standard as royalty free or nda share it with AMD. Because if they integrate as well then thats nearly 100% of cpu manufacturers employing it. And if they share with armb then all low power mobile devices will utilise it too?
    If you read the article, you will see that the whole basis is that INTEL are making it royalty free! In fact that is in the thread headline post!!
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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Correct me if i am wrongb but isn't thunderbolt Intel proprietary? If they want full mainstream adoption they should share the standard as royalty free or nda share it with AMD. Because if they integrate as well then thats nearly 100% of cpu manufacturers employing it. And if they share with armb then all low power mobile devices will utilise it too?

    Sir, you have messed up!

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    My question is, why free now? Will this just kill USB efforts, and end up with a royalty version as soon as usb is dead? I think this would only be good if they say "royalty free for 20yrs for all future versions until then" or something. Otherwise, it seems to me v4 will be tied to a fee again once they rule everything because it's shipping on 90% of the pc's yearly; assuming they get it on chip soon which looks like 2018 here and reading about it elsewhere that is. Seems they're only doing this to take over via on chip support, then we're screwed. Call me crazy...Trust nobody (Intel made that list a long time ago).

    One more point, this last rev of usb took 5yrs (2008-2013). So theoretically we should get 4.0 (3.2? whatever) sometime in 2018. So maybe we should wait and see here since that might be only a year away anyway...LOL. Hopefully out about the same time Intel gets this in a chip to sell. I'd rather have standards that royalties unless something is just SUPER awesome or something (orders of magnitude better than others, ok, I might buy it if it was everywhere).

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post
    My question is, why free now? Will this just kill USB efforts, and end up with a royalty version as soon as usb is dead? I think this would only be good if they say "royalty free for 20yrs for all future versions until then" or something. Otherwise, it seems to me v4 will be tied to a fee again once they rule everything because it's shipping on 90% of the pc's yearly; assuming they get it on chip soon which looks like 2018 here and reading about it elsewhere that is. Seems they're only doing this to take over via on chip support, then we're screwed. Call me crazy...Trust nobody (Intel made that list a long time ago).

    One more point, this last rev of usb took 5yrs (2008-2013). So theoretically we should get 4.0 (3.2? whatever) sometime in 2018. So maybe we should wait and see here since that might be only a year away anyway...LOL. Hopefully out about the same time Intel gets this in a chip to sell. I'd rather have standards that royalties unless something is just SUPER awesome or something (orders of magnitude better than others, ok, I might buy it if it was everywhere).
    I don't think USB is going to die anytime soon - regardless of INTEL's move - essentially this appears to be Royalty free forever - and the two standards can exist side by side. The USB-C and thunderbolt 3 share the same connector form factor anyway.
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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post
    My question is, why free now?
    I may have this wrong but wasn't Intel in a cross licensing deal with Apple that expired recently.

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Isn't Thunderbolt owned by Apple? Or , is that called soemthing else.. really confusing these days.

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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Isn't Thunderbolt owned by Apple? Or , is that called soemthing else.. really confusing these days.
    No, Thunderbolt was developed by Intel - as described in the original article.
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    Re: Intel reveals plans to integrate Thunderbolt 3 into future CPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    No, Thunderbolt was developed by Intel - as described in the original article.
    This. Apple got a time limited exclusive license to it so their machines had it before it started rolling out on other devices and motherboards.
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