Microsoft unveils the Xbox One X console at E3

[HEXUS]

Available from 7th Nov. Priced $499 USD / 449 GBP / 499 EUR / 599 CAD/ 649 AUD.

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[Kato-2]

It's actually looks pretty good value for money in comparison to the over priced and underwhelming PS4 Pro but MS really needs to work hard at the marketing to get it's point across which is also Microsoft's biggest weakness.

Your already seeing idiotic comments like it's DOA or just buy a PC, why would they if that were true consoles wouldn't exist at all, the PC has downsides like maintenance issues, no physical media and a constant peer pressure to spend money on new hardware (that few like to talk about). PC's work for some and for others consoles, if you want 4K/60fps console the One X looks pretty good value & it looks like a whole bunch of past games are being patched to take full advantage of it but even those that don't get a partial boost.

But expect MS to fumble all of that PR wise, not even a mention of Freesync TV's either which was disappointing, no Dolby Vision either.

[Saracen]

Initial impression = looks good.

However, at £449, too rich for me for a games console, especially given that it's party trick appears to be 4k, and I neither own, nor have any intention to own, a 4k TV. The only way I see me buying a 4k TV is if either :-

- as will probably happen over time, 4k becomes standard and you can't buy anything less, OR
- I end up buying a TV for other reasons, features, connectivity, etc, and it just happens to be 4k too.

Ultimately, for me, two things determine whether I'll buy into XOX or not. The first is where the market price, as opposed to that £450 launch price, settles down at. The second is whether there are any of the type of privacy gotchas that MS seem to have become belived of recently, dating from XBO always-on net connection, and built-in Kinect-type microphones and/or cameras, together with highly suspect licencing T&Cs. If they do that, then I wouldn't put one in my house if they gave it to me.

[3s-gtech]

At that price it'd make a cheap and powerful PC! I know it runs Windows 10 already, but if it could be 'engineered' to run the desktop OS by someone...

[3dcandy]

Initial impression = looks good.

However, at £449, too rich for me for a games console, especially given that it's party trick appears to be 4k, and I neither own, nor have any intention to own, a 4k TV. The only way I see me buying a 4k TV is if either :-

- as will probably happen over time, 4k becomes standard and you can't buy anything less, OR
- I end up buying a TV for other reasons, features, connectivity, etc, and it just happens to be 4k too.

Ultimately, for me, two things determine whether I'll buy into XOX or not. The first is where the market price, as opposed to that £450 launch price, settles down at. The second is whether there are any of the type of privacy gotchas that MS seem to have become belived of recently, dating from XBO always-on net connection, and built-in Kinect-type microphones and/or cameras, together with highly suspect licencing T&Cs. If they do that, then I wouldn't put one in my house if they gave it to me.

4K DOES appear to be the way forward, and for once we appear to have a standard that appeals to most people when the price gets to the right one to tip into mainstream (which I guess isn't too far away).
I actually applaude the steps being taken to look after most people and whilst not cheap, and privacy concerns are not clear it seems to be the way we are moving

[MrRockliffe]

The big question is, and it's not obvious to me, is whether you'll be able to play Xbox one multiplayer titles, such as black ops 3, across the different consoles (S Vs X). If so, I'll pick one up, as I was about to get a second Xbox one S anyway.

[Ozaron]

Haven't owned a console since my PS2 (which I loved, but moved on from), and with Steam and Humble and GOG existing it's been ever harder to justify the expense of a console. But I'm starting to feel an inkling of temptation..

[MrRockliffe]

Double post

[iworrall]

Small typo: There is no "e" in Bluray.

[Spud1]

I think i'll give it a year and do the upgrade then - if I am still using my Xbox One. I recently bought an S and given I have a PC that can do 4K gaming if I wanted to, and that the key Xbox titles are on PC as well as Xbox one now (at least exclusives thanks to project helix - assuming it actually happens) I think I can wait for the sales.

The price is pretty good and roughly on par with other new console launches, which are typically between £400 and £500 when you adjust for inflation and specs seem fine.

That "new console" thing is kind of important though - in many ways it should be seen as a new console rather than an upgrade, however because developers are not allowed to release X exclusives (i.e. everything must be available for the Xbox One/S as well as the X), it kind of isn't a new console.

Will have to see how it goes and what the review are like when a number of games are out in the wild.

[MatBailie]

Considering that this essentially has an RX 580 in it, will coin-miners also be buying this up and inflating its price?

[Terbinator]

The big question is, and it's not obvious to me, is whether you'll be able to play Xbox one multiplayer titles, such as black ops 3, across the different consoles (S Vs X). If so, I'll pick one up, as I was about to get a second Xbox one S anyway.

Yes. They're all viewed as 'XB1s' as far as MS is concerned.

[OilSheikh]

Looks like a PS4 from the back ???

[lon3wolf2002]

Looks like a PS4 from the back ???

It does look like a more square PS4 I reckon.

[aniilv]

4K DOES appear to be the way forward, and for once we appear to have a standard that appeals to most people when the price gets to the right one to tip into mainstream (which I guess isn't too far away).

No it is'nt. Framerate is much more important and every time these console devs try to shove 4k as selling point while very well knowing it wont do 60fps at 4k just makes me vomit. Heck often these consoles don't even do 1080p at stable 30, never mind 60fps 4k lol...
4k for gaming is just plain worse if you want a console. At these price ranges, at least.

[Saracen]

4K DOES appear to be the way forward, and for once we appear to have a standard that appeals to most people when the price gets to the right one to tip into mainstream (which I guess isn't too far away).
I actually applaude the steps being taken to look after most people and whilst not cheap, and privacy concerns are not clear it seems to be the way we are moving

Oh, I don't disagree that 4k appears to be the next step. We have had a few false starts (like 3D) and you are very likely right about it appealing to most people .... provided the price premium isn't too high.

My comments were about MY reaction to the new XBox, and given that 4k is central to it, my reaction to that, too.

Put it this way. I don't even care about HD, let alone 4k. But that's not to suggest I think anybody else shouldn't.