AMD lifts lid on the Radeon RX Vega experience

[HEXUS]

RX Vega 56 and RX Vega 64 to launch in August priced from $399 and $499, respectively.

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[3dcandy]

Probably not the performance people were wanting but price appears to be about where I expected

[Percy1983]

I never get the top end anyway as diminishing returns at the top end are ridiculous so not fussed if they don't take the top end crown.

Which ever offer the best value at the price I am willing to pay get my money which usually ends up being AMD.

[ajax2061]

nice but not as cheap as I was expecting tbh, tempting to get a 2nd fury instead now

[will19565]

those are some high tdp's...

[jamz4]

300w on a blower cooler and no custom cards until October? That's a let-down, been waiting to upgrade a 670 for ages.

[flearider]

what a load of (yeah) .. so wanted this but if it can't beat a 1080 without freesync then i'll hold on to my 290

[Iota]

$200 off a 37in Samsung CF791 FreeSync-enabled monitor

It's a 34" monitor. Interesting, that would bring the price down to about £500 as I already get 10-30% off Samsung products.

[Biscuit]

When they start ringing the "experience" bell, you just know its going to be a big fat flop.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The value does not look too bad,the issue is the Fury X is quite close to the GTX1070 already and luckily for Vega 64 the former is limited by 4GB of VRAM.

If Vega 64 can't match the aftermarket GTX1080 cards,this will be a worse failure than the 2900XT,which was less delayed and at least could compete with the second fastest Nvidia card of the day,the 8800GTS 640MB(technically you could argue third but the 8800 Ultra was a pre-overclocked 8800 GTX.

If it can barely match a GTX1080 FE,its beaten by the aftermarket 1080 cards,the GTX1080TI FE,aftermarket GTX1080TI cards,Titan X(Pascal) and the Titan Xp(Pascal),launching over a year later than the GTX1080 and a year later than the Titan X(Pascal).

With the increases in clockspeed over Fury,something must have gone really wrong - I can only think maybe they were expecting HBM2 clockspeeds to be considerably higher.

[badass]

They could have simply shrinked an R9 Fury X, saved a lot of die space, upped the clock speed and got more performance at lower power.

Whilst this is a huge but not unsurprising disappointment, I suspect we'll see some large increases over the next year. Not good for AMD though. It means that their much larger die Vega with super expensive interposer+HBM2 cant be sold for lots of money.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

They could have simply shrinked an R9 Fury X, saved a lot of die space, upped the clock speed and got more performance at lower power.

Whilst this is a huge but not unsurprising disappointment, I suspect we'll see some large increases over the next year. Not good for AMD though. It means that their much larger die Vega with super expensive interposer+HBM2 cant be sold for lots of money.

I think its a consequence of their top GPUs trying to do shoehorn gaming and professional workloads(things like AI) into a one size fits all GPU.

The only problem is Nvidia has now made sure they have separate lines,for both,meaning their gaming cards are powered by leaner chips.

Edit!!



A 64% increase from Vega 56 to Vega 64 for only a 30% increase in FLOPs??

[Tabbykatze]

What would be amusing with all of our expectations (including my own) being that it's massively deflating if it is targeted for a 1080 and only just beats it but then when it gets into peoples hands it beats a Titan Xp

That would be amusing!!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Apparently the Vega Nano might have been spotted:

https://smallformfactor.net/news/exc...ance-vega-nano

GN has confirmed tile based rasterization was switched off in the Vega FE:

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3...er-specs-price

[kpkCioby]

Wow, big surprise it's rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish. But cheap. At that price you can just wait for a 1080 custom cooled card to be on sale and buy that. I actually expect it to be more expensive than the 1080 at launch.

[cptwhite_uk]

Even at direct conversion the prices are approximately £305 / £380 / £460, before price gauging and VAT.

Let's assume it'll be around £320, £400 and £490 before VAT (I'm being optimistic), UK prices might be around £385, ££480 and £590 inc. VAT ....so probably £399, £499 and £599 RRP

If that's true they're overpriced unfortunately, based on expected performance and power consumption.