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    Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Official looking slides say chipset will offer 24 PCIe lanes.
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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    quad core dsp - so same as mobile phones then lol
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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    So, with a probable 8 core RYZEN Zen2 on the horizon they are stuck with max 6 core variants?

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    That 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes figure is key to the arrival of several enhancements touted for the platform. Previous Intel consumer chipsets limited such general purpose lanes to 8 or 12.
    The existing Z270 platform already offers up to 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes from the chipset: http://ark.intel.com/products/98089/Intel-Z270-Chipset ...

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    That 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes figure is key to the arrival of several enhancements touted for the platform. Previous Intel consumer chipsets limited such general purpose lanes to 8 or 12.
    The existing Z270 platform already offers up to 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes from the chipset: http://ark.intel.com/products/98089/Intel-Z270-Chipset ...
    Yes, but previously 16 of those would have been taken by the PCIe graphics leaving only 8 for other items. This time they are saying that the 24 are in addition to the 16 for PCIe graphics (i.e 40 in total vs 24 previously)

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by GinoLatino View Post
    So, with a probable 8 core RYZEN Zen2 on the horizon they are stuck with max 6 core variants?
    Intel still has higher IPC and higher maximum overclock rates than Ryzen. At present the i7 7700k gives better gaming performance than any Ryzen chip. This will likely continue to be the case with Coffee Lake. It will even "likely" continue to be the case after Zen2 appears, though that is less certain.

    What is more certain though, is that Intel's iCore will also continue to be significantly more expensive than AMD's Ryzen, including on a price-to-performance ratio.

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    nothing interesting here but a disappointment that new motherboard sockets for only 5-10% increase in performance, but intel has loyal customers so who cares!

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Another leak has indicated the Core i3 8300 is 4C/8T and running at 4GHZ.

    I might end up buying one of its priced well.


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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Another leak has indicated the Core i3 8300 is 4C/8T and running at 4GHZ.

    I might end up buying one of its priced well.
    I wonder how that will compare to the rumoured 6C/6T i5? Are 2 "real" cores better than four hyperthreads?

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagnaj97 View Post
    I wonder how that will compare to the rumoured 6C/6T i5? Are 2 "real" cores better than four hyperthreads?
    Hyperthreads will only net 'up to' 30% performance gains with an ideal workload (very parallel, and a mix of all kinds of instructions), while a physical core obviously has a 100% performance improvement for sufficiently parallel workloads. So the i5 should perform quite a bit better, assuming equivalent clocks. Still, it's nice that quad core is now becoming the baseline, finally.
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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Yes, but previously 16 of those would have been taken by the PCIe graphics leaving only 8 for other items. This time they are saying that the 24 are in addition to the 16 for PCIe graphics (i.e 40 in total vs 24 previously)
    Pretty sure they were always separate from the graphics lanes. Z170 had 20 seperate lanes in addition to the graphics, Z270 has 24, just like the coffee lake platform.

    ref: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...ifference-877/

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Hyperthreads will only net 'up to' 30% performance gains with an ideal workload (very parallel, and a mix of all kinds of instructions), while a physical core obviously has a 100% performance improvement for sufficiently parallel workloads. So the i5 should perform quite a bit better, assuming equivalent clocks. Still, it's nice that quad core is now becoming the baseline, finally.
    But even then a 4C/8T Core i3 is going to be sufficient for most gamers,and together with the Ryzen 5 1600,I think its heading back to the time where you could get away with a sub £200 CPU for gaming and spend more on the graphics cards.

    I can't see the 6C models being worth it for many games - if they are lightly threaded the Core i3 would be enough,and it will still handle more modern engines fine,and if you need more threads a Ryzen 5 1600 should be competitive whilst costing less(I suspect).
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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Yes, but previously 16 of those would have been taken by the PCIe graphics ...
    Nope, the 16 PCIe lanes for graphics come from the CPU directly. Those 24 lanes detailed on ark are from the chipset itself - as kalniel points out, Z170 had 20 and Z270 has 24. Whatever other additional features Z370 adds, it's nothing to do with the 24 PCIe lanes from the chipset.

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Nope, the 16 PCIe lanes for graphics come from the CPU directly. Those 24 lanes detailed on ark are from the chipset itself - as kalniel points out, Z170 had 20 and Z270 has 24. Whatever other additional features Z370 adds, it's nothing to do with the 24 PCIe lanes from the chipset.
    What is the likelihood Intel could have made Coffeelake work fine with Z170 motherboards??


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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    What is the likelihood Intel could have made Coffeelake work fine with Z170 motherboards??
    It's more the socket pins that may have changed - I think I read Z370 and Coffeelake is socket 1151v2 - might be the 6cores have necessitated a minor rearrangement.

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    Re: Intel Coffee Lake platform presentation slides leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Another leak has indicated the Core i3 8300 is 4C/8T and running at 4GHZ.

    I might end up buying one of its priced well.
    So ryzen gave us an i3 7700K?

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