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    12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Say motherboard maker sources speaking to a Taiwanese IT industry journal.
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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Interesting news. I'm a little bit skeptical about the chipsets being designed by ASMedia, though. Wouldn't this be a first for them? Do they have the necessary knowhow?

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Interesting news. I'm a little bit skeptical about the chipsets being designed by ASMedia, though. Wouldn't this be a first for them? Do they have the necessary knowhow?
    AFAIK,the 300 series ones are also probably designed by the same company - it was announced nearly three years ago they would be handling chipset development for AMD:

    https://www.kitguru.net/components/c...g-deal-report/

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Interesting news. I'm a little bit skeptical about the chipsets being designed by ASMedia, though. Wouldn't this be a first for them? Do they have the necessary knowhow?
    They already did the current Ryzen chipsets, and have been in partnership with AMD since at least 2014. And yes, they do have the knowhow.

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    is it true that the GF 14nm processes is a clone of Samsung 14nm process?

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    is it true that the GF 14nm processes is a clone of Samsung 14nm process?
    No. The two companies developed the 14nm process together though, so it is essentially the same process, but it was a joint development, not a case of GloFo cloning Samsung's process (or vice versa).

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Does this mean that the B350 and X370 boards will not be compatible? Different CPU sockets?

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by zsde View Post
    Does this mean that the B350 and X370 boards will not be compatible? Different CPU sockets?
    Same AM4 socket AFAIK.

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    AFAIK,the 300 series ones are also probably designed by the same company - it was announced nearly three years ago they would be handling chipset development for AMD:

    https://www.kitguru.net/components/c...g-deal-report/
    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    They already did the current Ryzen chipsets, and have been in partnership with AMD since at least 2014. And yes, they do have the knowhow.
    Thanks to both of you. I wasn't aware that they've been involved with/designed previous chipsets for AMD. For me ASMedia has always been the spin-off from ASUS that does USB controllers.

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by zsde View Post
    Does this mean that the B350 and X370 boards will not be compatible? Different CPU sockets?
    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Same AM4 socket AFAIK.
    Definitely the same socket. Updated chipset is hardly a surprise - AFAIK the 300-series don't support USB 3.1 Gen 2 natively, so I imagine that'll get slapped in there along with a few other updates. 300-series mobos should support at least the next 2 generations of Ryzen desktop CPUs, although you'll probably need a BIOS update for full support - as has always been the case when putting newer CPUs in older mobos.

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Looking forward to an uodated ryzen. This last year has been great for CPUs.I think I'd only get excited for an AMD gpu when they manage to incorporate their infinity fabric to make a multi-chip module style card.

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by chj View Post
    ... I think I'd only get excited for an AMD gpu when they manage to incorporate their infinity fabric to make a multi-chip module style card.


    You're going to be waiting a long time - there are far greater technical issues with MCM GPUs than with CPUs. If you hunt around the forums there's some discussion of this from a few months ago. Some researchers presented a paper at an nvidia tech conference, which - iirc - basically concluded that it was possible for a perfectly implemented MCM GPU to outperform existing multi-GPU systems, but the benefits weren't that great, they'd require a lot of work changing the whole structure of existing GPUs, and that you could actually use a lot of the same techniques to improve the performance of multi-GPU systems by a similar amount, but it'd take a lot less work.

    One thing I guess we might see from AMD, once the HBC/HBCC structure starts being used properly - is multi-GPU cards where each GPU has a smaller local cache and the GPUs share a larger (but slower) on-card VRAM as well (e.g. each GPU has 4GB of local HBC and shared access to 16GB of GDDR5).

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Intel, AMD, IBM, and other major chip makers are all talking of 10nm to 5nm, but what will happen after 5nm?

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    Intel, AMD, IBM, and other major chip makers are all talking of 10nm to 5nm, but what will happen after 5nm?
    <5nm

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    Intel, AMD, IBM, and other major chip makers are all talking of 10nm to 5nm, but what will happen after 5nm?
    <5nm

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    Re: 12nm AMD Ryzen 'Pinnacle' CPUs to arrive in February

    Yeh the comments on here highlight a couple of other hurdles too www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-navi-gpu-specifications

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