AMD, but not the 1800x. I'd go for the R7-1700 and just clock it to 4Ghz. Plus you are gonna be keeping your motherboard for a while yet.
(P.S: I might be biased because iv'e already got a R7-1700 with 32GB RAM @2800MHz) System is very solid.
AMD, but not the 1800x. I'd go for the R7-1700 and just clock it to 4Ghz. Plus you are gonna be keeping your motherboard for a while yet.
(P.S: I might be biased because iv'e already got a R7-1700 with 32GB RAM @2800MHz) System is very solid.
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I have, and love, AMD's 1800x. Disappointing overclocks, but I knew that going in.
I'm on the fence about buying an i7 8700k, which is fine since 10/5 saw just an Intel paper launch. Maybe in a few months for my second rig that currently uses an i7 6700k with 5.1 OCs.
Its a tough call at the moment and based on the past, I wouldn't be 100% sure that an AMD mobo would still be good for future upgrades....they have messed that up in the past, could easily do it again. Forward compatibility isn't guaranteed.
Neither platform is really giving me the "buy me now" vibe. The intel launch seems half-baked and the AMD launch seems a bit beta-ish.
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I would also choose Ryzen 1700, b350 and roughly 3000mhz RAM (maybe 3200).
This is almost my setup now and I'm very happy.
It's cheaper, but if you really want 144hz 1080p intel is an option if you can afford and cool it.
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Well, if someone wants to pay £800 for a CPU that will go 200MHz higher than "average", let them. It's their money they're pissing up the wall.
They do them for 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2, from what I can see. So it's unlikely there will be any rejects.
Taken directly from the OCUK page:
Features:
- De-lidded by 8 Pack for upto 26c cooling running temperatures under load
- Guaranteed minimum overclock of 5.2Ghz with an AIO 240mm cooler with 1.35-1.425v
- Comes with 1yr guarantee, so should if fail you are completely covered by OcUK 12 month warranty.
Its not so much about the money they're charging (although I do find it objectionable still), its about the principle of them doing it. Looking at the OCUK forums it looks like they have been doing this for a while with older generation chips as well.
Can't imagine they welcome debate about it on the forum all that much.
If I got a box with a broken seal, and it hadn't been advertised as "open box" with a reasonable discount, I would be demanding they sent a courier to collect it and replace it.
If I buy a K cpu, I expect to play the silicone lottery the same as everyone else.
Edit - So a little bit more reading:
Suppose that's fair enough.Originally Posted by Gibbo - OCUK Staff
That sounds reasonable. A delidded&prebinned i9 with a warranty would definitely be worth the extra, if you wanted the fastest thing possible, and a couple hundred pound premium on something that costs over a grand is definitely worth it for the warranty if you were planning on delidding anyway
Its because there are idiots jumping on the Ryzen is "slow" and hence "dead" for gaming bandwagon so retailers then will find ways of pushing the price of the limited supply of Core i7 chips too since its the ultimate E-PEEN chip. Its not the first or last time when hardware enthusiasts on forums overhype a CPU or GPU and the retailers laugh,plonk the price up and they still pay the stupid price for the honour of their E-PEEN,since they have considered anything else as rubbish so have to "live by the sword".
Don't blame the retailers - blame the people who pay the prices when retailers start jacking them up at launch.
Launch quantities of the Core i7 8700K also look very low and also the number of orders too!!
So OcUK only sold 90 on launch day and 120 on the first two days - they had to scour the UK to get more stock to fill pre-orders.Originally Posted by Gibbo
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It seems it was probably meant to be released in early 2018 which makes sense if you look at the B360,etc being launched during that time too,and that the Z390 is also being released next year.
So Intel brought forward the launch,and this is probably why only the Z370 is available as many of the motherboards seemed to slightly rejigged Z270 ones.
Basically Intel is trying to put people off buying the higher end Ryzen CPUs though by dangling the Core i7 8700K in front of people,and it shows you how worried they must have been,to essentially crater sales of the Core i7 7700k an Z270 which are under a year old.
Edit!!
It also does make me wonder though - Zen+ is meant to be probably first quarter 2018,so by the time Intel actually gets the other chipsets launched and the Core i7 8700k out in decent quantity it might be not that long until Zen+ launches,unless AMD/GF screw that up!!
https://www.techpowerup.com/237371/a...-february-2018
Hmm.
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