Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 32

Thread: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    26,187
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1,406 times in 528 posts

    Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Will lead new Core and Visual Computing Group to develop integrated and discrete graphics.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    • deepblue08's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z170X Ultra Gaming
      • CPU:
      • i7 6700K @ 4.2
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Vengeance 4x8GB @ 3000mhz
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 950 PRO 256GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix 970 GTX
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 850W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 750D

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    AMD must be <mod edit> bricks.
    Last edited by scaryjim; 09-11-2017 at 09:37 AM. Reason: swearing policy

  3. #3
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    60
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by deepblue08 View Post
    AMD must be <mod edit> bricks.
    Can you imagine the horror if AMD sold off its GPU department to intel and CPU department to nvidia? A full on war between nvidia and intel......
    Last edited by scaryjim; 09-11-2017 at 09:38 AM.

  4. #4
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    7,781
    Thanks
    300
    Thanked
    738 times in 638 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • M5A-97 EVO R2.0
      • CPU:
      • FX-8350
      • Memory:
      • 16GB ECC 1333
      • Storage:
      • 660GB Linux, 500GB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 24 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by decends View Post
    A full on war between nvidia and intel......
    You think Intel destroying Nvidia's chipset business whilst denying them the ability to so much as emulate x86 in software wasn't enough? People really liked the old Nvidia Ion for Atom boards, clearly Intel had to put a stop to that too so they crippled Atom specifically so Nvidia couldn't add graphics to it. Really, it can't get any dirtier than it already is between those two so if Intel is now going after Nvidia's core markets but this time with someone who might actually be able to pull it off then things are going to get interesting.

    Note also that the last legal agreement between Intel and Nvidia was signed in 2011 and lasted for 6 years, so the cease fire may be considered off.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Darkest Northamptonshire
    Posts
    365
    Thanks
    39
    Thanked
    56 times in 45 posts
    • spacein_vader's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus B85M-G
      • CPU:
      • i5 4460 3.2GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4x4GB Crucial DDR3 1600
      • Storage:
      • 128GB SSD, 256GB SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus RX-480 Dual OC 4GB
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX 520W modular
      • Case:
      • Antec Mini P180
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • BenQ GW2765, Dell Ultrasharp U2412
      • Internet:
      • Origin Fibre Max

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by decends View Post
    Can you imagine the horror if AMD sold off its GPU department to intel and CPU department to nvidia? A full on war between nvidia and intel......
    They can't. AMDs x86 licence has clauses in around it not being transferable if AMD sells out to a non US company. Unless NV is willing to completely restructure into the US they can't buy the Cpu side.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    MOMBASA
    Posts
    685
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    13 times in 12 posts

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    so intel HD graphics is slowly dying away? Some geeks have been claiming intel HD graphics of the Skylake to the current era are more efficient than a similar performance tier offered by AMD or Nvidia in the 14nm process, is this claim true?

  7. #7
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    7,781
    Thanks
    300
    Thanked
    738 times in 638 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • M5A-97 EVO R2.0
      • CPU:
      • FX-8350
      • Memory:
      • 16GB ECC 1333
      • Storage:
      • 660GB Linux, 500GB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 24 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    They can't. AMDs x86 licence has clauses in around it not being transferable if AMD sells out to a non US company.
    I think it is if they sell to *any* company. The license is just not transferable. That isn't a deal breaker though, Nvidia could buy AMD and run it as an independent subsidiary or they could merge the companies keeping the AMD name making Nvidia graphics cards as an AMD brand which would seem odd for a week or so then people would just accept it.

    I don't see it happening though. Nvidia have Denver and right now ARM is probably more valuable than x86.

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    14
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Raja is a big name (though to be fair, I only came across him recently due to AMD's PR campaigns). This will be considered by some a big loss to AMD and specifically the RTG (I wonder if AMD will relaunch the ATi brand, it would make things so much easier). I guess you could say he was the Jim Keller of RTF.

    I'm no so sure I'd go that far, but maybe it's fair. Maybe he got tired of the constant uphill battle and being weighed down by AMD's lack of money and infrastructure to do really cool next level things.


    Two or three years ago, people were expecting AMD to declare bankruptcy with their line riding of the Altman Z-score, yet they stuck around to lunch two separate, market invigorating, products. How much of this success is down to individuals like Keller and Raja? Does the media/PR dept's place too much emphasis on their involvement? Are they as critical as it seemed? Is AMD <mod edit>?.....up toilet creek?

    The Intel/AMD deal really caught me by surprise. I suspect Intel will have this new graphics team working to resolve the necessity for AMD's involvement and dump that contract ASAP.

    Also, when Keller left for that fancy Tesla group he said he left a top quality management structure in place. Raja took a Leave of Absence and the AMD boss is doing his job in the short term. I wonder how long he/AMD knew he was going to Intel and if the LoA was just to give them time to buffer his absence from hurting their stock value.

    I speculated that Vega's apparent focus on Big Data and mining was an attempt to break into those markets and carve a foothold, but doing so on a desktop gpu was attempting too much with one product. Despite all the positive spin, sales just aren't what they need to be and I think AMD look to be circling the toilet.



    I haven't had much sleep so I could just as well be reading way too much into this. Also, if they do go bust, maybe Samsung could buy them, that'd give Intel something to chew on.
    Last edited by SylvanSagacious; 09-11-2017 at 09:43 AM. Reason: language patriarchy

  9. #9
    Not a good person scaryjim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    14,186
    Thanks
    1,120
    Thanked
    2,036 times in 1,702 posts
    • scaryjim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • HP Pavilion
      • CPU:
      • A10 4600M
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4GB DDR3-1600 SODIMM
      • Storage:
      • 1TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon HD7660G (IGP)
      • PSU:
      • Battery/HP 19v brick
      • Case:
      • HP Pavilion G6
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 15" 1366x768 laptop panel

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    MODERATOR NOTICE

    Hi everyone, I've just had to edit two posts in this thread for violations of Hexus forums language policy: https://forums.hexus.net/general-dis...ease-read.html

    If you only comment on news posts here you might not have fully engaged with the community feel we try to encourage throughout Hexus forums, but as these comment threads are hosted by the forums the same rules apply.

    I'd strongly recommend reading the post I linked to above, regardless of whether you're a relatively new poster or an old-timer like me - we all need to occasionally remind ourselves of what we agree to by using these forums.

    In particular, please note that using asterisks to censor your language is not appropriate. If you know a word needs censoring, then you know you shouldn't be using that word here, so why use it? Please find ways of expressing yourself that don't involvebase crudeness - there's always another way to get your point across.

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    127
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    6 times in 5 posts
    • spolsh's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Crosshair VI
      • CPU:
      • R7 1700
      • Memory:
      • Team Froup DDR4

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Pah ! And I thought <mod edit> was a hip new swear !

  11. #11
    I'm special azrael-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    726
    Thanks
    44
    Thanked
    62 times in 55 posts
    • azrael-'s system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P8C-WS
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 3.4 GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16 GB ECC DDR3 1333 MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256 GB Samsung 830, 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO, 6 TB WD HDDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS GTX 970 TurboOC 4 GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic X-Series 560W
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 550D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2209WA
      • Internet:
      • VDSL 55/12 Mbit/s

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    I can't help but wonder if this bit from Raja's internal memo will still hold true:

    I will continue to be an ardent fan and user of AMD technologies for both personal and professional use.
    But then again, what does "AMD technologies" actually cover? Will Raja insist on only using computers with Radeon graphics? Or could it even be defined as vaguely as AMD64? That would hold true for all current Intel processors, even though Intel insists on labeling it differently.

  12. #12
    Senior Member outwar6010's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Sagittarius A
    Posts
    1,525
    Thanks
    216
    Thanked
    158 times in 106 posts
    • outwar6010's system
      • Motherboard:
      • asus p8z68 gen 3
      • CPU:
      • i5 2500k @ 3.4Ghz
      • Memory:
      • corsair 16gb ddr3 1600mhz
      • Storage:
      • 14ish tb of various drives
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte Aorus 1080
      • PSU:
      • corsair ax 760
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster cosmos 2
      • Operating System:
      • windows 10 pro 64 bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • hp omen 32
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet 40Meg

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    I heard that this was more about deep learning and ai, than graphics per say.
    Facts don't exist, only interpretations.


  13. #13
    Tangential CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Planet Of The Moose
    Posts
    25,900
    Thanks
    2,848
    Thanked
    3,897 times in 3,026 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Jim Keller when he joined Tesla,not only hired some ex-AMD people,but it apparently lead to this:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/20/tesl...-with-amd.html

    AMD collaborating with Tesla on making a new chip. This probably indicates its more likely Intel will work closer with AMD,not only in licensing IP,but developing some aspects of the physical GPU development.

    After all if Intel already had a decent uarch already they wouldn't be using a custom AMD chip for their high end laptop chip,so it looks like a different direction to what they were doing before.

    If anything,as the chap over at HardOCP said,Intel has let go of a lot of its graphics related engineers.

    So that indicates to me,they intend to either:
    1.)License and use AMD base technology to implement their GPUs. AMD developes the base uarch and Intel implements their own chips based on it different to AMD.
    2.)Intel buys RTG so gets all the engineers and IP.
    3.)Intel buys part of RTG and shares in R and D costs.
    4.)AMD developes the graphics parts of Intel CPUs.
    5.)Intel developes their own base technlogy and design.

    The last one has not worked as well as they probably expected,hence why the sudden change it seems.


    Go!Go! Gadget Underpants!

  14. Received thanks from:

    outwar6010 (09-11-2017)

  15. #14
    I'm special azrael-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    726
    Thanks
    44
    Thanked
    62 times in 55 posts
    • azrael-'s system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P8C-WS
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 3.4 GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16 GB ECC DDR3 1333 MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256 GB Samsung 830, 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO, 6 TB WD HDDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS GTX 970 TurboOC 4 GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic X-Series 560W
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 550D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2209WA
      • Internet:
      • VDSL 55/12 Mbit/s

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Jim Keller when he joined Tesla,not only hired some ex-AMD people,but it apparently lead to this:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/20/tesl...-with-amd.html

    AMD collaborating with Tesla on making a new chip. This probably indicates its more likely Intel will work closer with AMD,not only in licensing IP,but developing some aspects of the physical GPU development.

    After all if Intel already had a decent uarch already they wouldn't be using a custom AMD chip for their high end laptop chip,so it looks like a different direction to what they were doing before.

    If anything,as the chap over at HardOCP said,Intel has let go of a lot of its graphics related engineers.

    So that indicates to me,they intend to either:
    1.)License and use AMD base technology to implement their GPUs. AMD developes the base uarch and Intel implements their own chips based on it different to AMD.
    2.)Intel buys RTG so gets all the engineers and IP.
    3.)Intel buys part of RTG and shares in R and D costs.
    4.)AMD developes the graphics parts of Intel CPUs.
    5.)Intel developes their own base technlogy and design.

    The last one has not worked as well as they probably expected,hence why the sudden change it seems.
    I just had a serious deja vu moment ... until I realized you copied yesterday's comment from the other thread verbatim.

  16. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,727
    Thanks
    138
    Thanked
    154 times in 112 posts

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by outwar6010 View Post
    I heard that this was more about deep learning and ai, than graphics per say.
    From how Intel describe his newly created role it seems to cover everything from IoT, AI, integrated graphics, and discrete graphics too compute cards.

    From the sounds of it they're looking to compete in the same market that Nvidia currently operates in, although where that leaves AMD IDK.
    Last edited by Corky34; 09-11-2017 at 11:37 AM.

  17. #16
    Tangential CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Planet Of The Moose
    Posts
    25,900
    Thanks
    2,848
    Thanked
    3,897 times in 3,026 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    I just had a serious deja vu moment ... until I realized you copied yesterday's comment from the other thread verbatim.
    Yes,I did - easier to copy and paste it on the phone. However,I noticed something when a mate showed me this tweet from Raja Koduri's new twitter account:

    https://twitter.com/Rajaontheedge/st...27350743588864

    It will be a massive understatement to say that I am beyond excited about my new role at Intel. I haven't yet seen anything written that groks the magnitude of what I am pursuing. The scale of it is not even remotely close to what I was doing before. Will say more when ready!

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitter poster
    Hmmmm..."groks" = easter egg? $AMD filed a trademark application for "Grok" last year, granted 2017-08-08 - https://trademarks.justia.com/871/15/grok-87115592.html … ....The plot thickens, as the computer HW nerd internet looses its mind...Hope it involves VR/AR/AI & a new metaverse.
    https://trademarks.justia.com/871/15/grok-87115592.html

    Hmm,AMD just filed a trademark for GROK just recently.

    So late last year,Intel and AMD joined forces for this promo:

    http://techreport.com/news/31088/amd...ware-and-games

    Now,Intel uses a custom AMD graphics chip,and apparently according to rumours Intel reduced the size of its graphics division last year:

    https://www.kitguru.net/components/g...-future-igpus/

    Something is definitely up!!
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 09-11-2017 at 11:49 AM.


    Go!Go! Gadget Underpants!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •