Mozilla Firefox Quantum is released today

[azrael-]

This. A lot of the complaints seem to be to do with the UI, which is odd as many seemed to dislike the old one.

You change the shape of the tab edges and the Internet loses its mind. Weird.

Many users actively hated the Aurora UI (including me) and *what it took away*, but you had ClassicThemeRestorer to deal with that. Guess, what's no longer possible with the brand spanking new extension framework invented and pushed by Google...

[Sam__]

Finally Firefox got their act together and are back in the game. I think I'll download it and have a play.

[spacein_vader]

Many users actively hated the Aurora UI (including me) and *what it took away*, but you had ClassicThemeRestorer to deal with that. Guess, what's no longer possible with the brand spanking new extension framework invented and pushed by Google...

Have you checked the new UI to see if it offers what you miss from the older UI without needing an extension? I've no idea if it does but it's worth a look surely? Failing that I'd suggest the Seamonkey suite for the 'classic' look while still being broadly Mozilla based or Vivaldi for a more modern take on a very tweakable browser.

[azrael-]

Have you checked the new UI to see if it offers what you miss from the older UI without needing an extension? I've no idea if it does but it's worth a look surely? Failing that I'd suggest the Seamonkey suite for the 'classic' look while still being broadly Mozilla based or Vivaldi for a more modern take on a very tweakable browser.

I've seen screenshots and that has been enough. And as I wrote initially, I've switched to Waterfox, which pretty much is Firefox as it used to be, including XUL/XPCOM. So, for the time being I'm good.

[Ttaskmaster]

New one feels very Chromey... and they've moved everything around again. All my bits, bookmarks, shortcuts, settings, apps and the like carried over perfectly fine, though.
It's ever so slightly faster, but pretty wasted on my pseudo-rural internet speeds anyway.

I'm now stuck with v47 here at work, because the IT oiks never update anything...

[Mr_Jon]

Still a big ol' memory hog, looking at them charts. I was using normal firefox until recently. On my 8gb machine, it was using ~950mb on average, peaking at around 1200mb. Quantum looks like (in an ideal world) only slightly less than that.

I switched to pale moon, which uses ~300mb, peaking at around 450mb. I'd consider Quantum if it was near those figures, not the current firefox ones.

I've downloaded Quantum, and the memory use is barely less than Firefox. One tab open, and it was 450mb (usually around 550mb with Friefox). Rose to 1100mb with 4 tabs open, and then averaged out about 950mb. Did seem quicker, but definitely still a memory hog.

[Phage]

Your use of "definitely" is wrong
As I said - and posted a shot FF is NOT a memory hog. And not for the Jon either.
Are you doing something odd with the browser ?

[anselhelm]

Pass. Staying with Firefox 56 until Mozilla backtracks on disabling legacy add-ons, provides a decent API for WebExtensions so all my add-ons can be ported or until I give up and switch to Waterfox, which will continue legacy support.

I don't need Firefox to be another Chrome: I need it to keep my add-on support.

[Mr_Jon]

Your use of "definitely" is wrong
As I said - and posted a shot FF is NOT a memory hog. And not for the Jon either.
Are you doing something odd with the browser ?

Dunno mate - that's the readings it gives me. Both browsers open on same page, one tab only:



Both with same four tabs open:



Not sure why there's a 4 and then 7 in brackets after Firefox, mind.

[3dcandy]

What's wrong with you lot - work puter with 2 tabs open but has been on since before 8am and all day with multiple tabs open and not closed once...

[Phage]

That's just weird. I've left mine open for a few hours - 122Mb

[Mr_Jon]

That's just weird. I've left mine open for a few hours - 122Mb

Definitely! In the article the charts seems to point to about 800mb on an 8gb system. What sorcery is this?

[Phage]

W7 vs W10 ?

[Ttaskmaster]

Does it not depend on what is happening in each tab?
Like, if you have YouTubes open on them all, it will use more memory than just a page of text?

[LSG501]

Only thing I disagree with is they should have allowed a period where both old and new extensions were allowed, giving devs time to port over.

They kind of did.... last couple of firefox versions had 'legacy' added to add ons that don't work with quantum.


As to the changes... honestly I can't see any real difference in performance, although ram does seem to be lower but it's a bit hard to tell with all the tabs being separate 'firefox' entries in my task manager. Having said that I'd tweaked the old one to be faster at loading webpages etc via speed tweaks (akaspeedyfox) addon and that seems to have carried over onto quantum which is now no longer compatible so back to the old school way of doing it via about:config when I reinstall then unless it gets an update.

I've actually had to install more add ons due to changes on the UI front, really don't like the new tab shortcut design so basically had to grab new tab tools so I could get icons that weren't the size of a postage stamp and allowed me to use more than 10 links...so much wasted space.

And they've changed the top bar again.... I really wish they'd stick to just one UI direction rather than changing it every couple of releases....I've changed it to be as close to the old one as possible but it doesn't feel quite right.

Also lost a couple of plugins which while at the moment don't seem to be missed I may come to miss them, one of which was an 'auto close' addon for pop ups I don't want or need to pop up but are missed by ublock etc.

[3dcandy]

My memory useage is probably right on the top of high useage. Remember multiple tabs open (including youtube) and Wordpress sites multiplied over no shutdown must have an effect