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    Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Milking of Optane starts. lets give the consumer 512MB to start with and then will raise the price and offer them a 'discount' 1GB.
    Oh and then will have Optane 2 you'll need a new motherboard for.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    I wonder if AMD is working on a similar product.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrinkly View Post
    I wonder if AMD is working on a similar product.
    Optane (3D Cross-point) is the result of an Intel / Micron joint venture - so until the patent runs out (20 years I believe), AMD won't be replicating it. Of course there's nothing to stop AMD developing their own IP to compete with Optane.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    Optane (3D Cross-point) is the result of an Intel / Micron joint venture - so until the patent runs out (20 years I believe), AMD won't be replicating it. Of course there's nothing to stop AMD developing their own IP to compete with Optane.
    I doubt AMD have got the R&D budget for a new non-volatile memory technology to compete with 3D X-Point, many others have tried to create a successor to NAND Flash and so far Intel/Micron are the only ones to get something to market.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    Optane (3D Cross-point) is the result of an Intel / Micron joint venture - so until the patent runs out (20 years I believe), AMD won't be replicating it. Of course there's nothing to stop AMD developing their own IP to compete with Optane.
    I doubt AMD have got the R&D budget for a new non-volatile memory technology to compete with 3D X-Point, many others have tried to create a successor to NAND Flash and so far Intel/Micron are the only ones to get something to market.
    And it's something that epically failed to convince consumers. Optane in the real world is mostly useless.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Glyce View Post
    ... Optane in the real world is mostly useless.
    OTOH Optane in the real world is currently just NVMe drives targeted at being a fast storage cache, and that's a niche no-one's ever done really well in.

    Optane DIMMs should be a different beast altogether, but I'm going to wait until I see the claimed performance before I get excited - if this is just the same Optane performance in a different form factor then colour me bored; if it's significantly closer to RAM performance I'll sit up and take note. The one thing that's really putting the brakes on my excitement is that the slide shows X-Point DIMMs in the "storage" pool, which doesn't sound like they've got any closer to RAM performance...

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace007 View Post
    Milking of Optane starts. lets give the consumer 512MB to start with and then will raise the price and offer them a 'discount' 1GB.
    Oh and then will have Optane 2 you'll need a new motherboard for.
    if everyone was a negative thinker like you, there would be zero progress in life. you are a downer, big time.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    The first products were kind of a let down, but maybe things will develop more in tune with what they promised and costs will drop in time.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Who really needs Optane? Is this another product that will fade off the face of the earth just like RD Ram

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by ETR316 View Post
    if everyone was a negative thinker like you, there would be zero progress in life. you are a downer, big time.
    Kindly keep your personal attacks to yourself, If you just disagree please state it instead.
    We have DDR1, DDR2, DDR3 etc, There is no reason why this will not follow the same, performance & specs aside its how the industry works.
    New products are always at a lower spec with high costs as they need to find a way to recoup their R&D.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    Who really needs Optane? Is this another product that will fade off the face of the earth just like RD Ram
    RD Ram? I read a very interesting article about that: "I am John's RAM".

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    In theory (at least for now), non-volatile RAM could usher in an era of "instant ON" computers. A lot of details need to be worked out. Nevertheless, a current OS startup sequence must re-load the OS primarily because the DRAM is empty after being powered down. With Optane DIMMs, the contents of such an NVDRAM are retained when the system is SHUTDOWN. Therefore, STARTUP takes on an entirely new meaning when the OS is memory-resident. To illustrate, do a thought experiment and mount Optane on the SO-DIMM form factor. STARTUP on such a laptop then looks like the result of moving the mouse when the Screen Saver is activated. This approach would be far superior to the current Windows "hibernation" functionality. Similarly, ramdisks would not need to be SAVEd and RESTOREd to and from non-volatile memory.

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    Re: Intel Optane DIMMs confirmed to launch in H2 2018

    Doesn't hibernate already essentially copy the RAM contents over to the non-volatile media? Even for 16GB of well utilised RAM, taking that off an SSD won't take long

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