Tesla's new Roadster is "the quickest car in the world"

And... New stuff announcement!

Well, they made it! And at the older claim of 5000/week! Good for them!

Except, as expected, their total production over the quarter was quite a lot behind, about 28,000 cars, falling well short of predictions. That's an average of 2200/week. Not a gentle ramp up. Given the very variable build quality which has been plaguing Tesla, I still feel sorry for those who end up with a car from that last week's batch!

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Originally Posted by jimborae

am i the only person that has an issue with tesla's support/repair model. I.e. Only tesla or tesla qualified repair shops can work on a tesla and if they discover that you/3rd party repaired it then they'll disable features like supercharge and certain updates etc. Rendering your car virtually worthless? Until that's outlawed you'll never catch me owning a tesla, even if i could afford one.

This guy sums it up quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oklgtygnd7a

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wtf??

never mind.

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Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH

wtf??

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The link in your quote doesn't work, the link in my original post does. Not sure what's going on there.

Try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLgtYgnd7A

Or is it a more general "wtf" in respect of Tesla's cowboy behaviour??

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Originally Posted by jimborae

The link in your quote doesn't work, the link in my original post does. Not sure what's going on there.

Try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLgtYgnd7A

Or is it a more general "wtf" in respect of Tesla's cowboy behaviour??

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The last one. I seriously hope other companies making EVs don't try and follow their behaviour!! They are clearly overcharging for simple repairs in an effort to push you to overpriced "approved" dealers,and then using the computerised nature of EVs to try and rip you off by disabling features. So a car under warranty,which had a minor issue,and then when taken into a service place,they then quietly disabled supercharging since it wasn't bought from an approved dealership??

So if you bought a Tesla,sold it to a mate,they won't honour the warranty since it wasn't done via an official dealership,then proceed to disable features and ask $10000 from you as a from of extortion?? Honestly,WTF??

The video about them,not repairing an airbag defect which was part of an official recall is ridiculous,just because the car wasn't bought from a dealership,and then the owner having to complain to a governmental agency who sided with them.

I watched that channels other videos,and the even more WTF at some of the repair estimates and waiting times for repairs,which essentially are forcing you to buy a new car.

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Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH

The last one. I seriously hope other companies making EVs don't try and follow their behaviour!! They are clearly overcharging for simple repairs in an effort to push you to overpriced "approved" dealers,and then using the computerised nature of EVs to try and rip you off by disabling features. So a car under warranty,which had a minor issue,and then when taken into a service place,they then quietly disabled supercharging since it wasn't bought from an approved dealership??

So if you bought a Tesla,sold it to a mate,they won't honour the warranty since it wasn't done via an official dealership,then proceed to disable features and ask $10000 from you as a from of extortion?? Honestly,WTF??

The video about them,not repairing an airbag defect which was part of an official recall is ridiculous,just because the car wasn't bought from a dealership,and then the owner having to complain to a governmental agency who sided with them.

I watched that channels other videos,and the even more WTF at some of the repair estimates and waiting times for repairs,which essentially are forcing you to buy a new car.

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That's exactly my take on things as well. Seriously what are they playing at! In some states in the US it would appear that their whole repair model is illegal and so they've had to modify it a bit for those states but effectively it still reeks of monopolistic behaviour.

The repair situation regarding costs & repair times is the same in the UK for Tesla. I.e. hugely expensive & massive waiting times I've heard.

Hence why I said earlier that until this changes you wont catch me buying a Tesla. Add to that shocking build quality issues and it just completely changes the ownership/desirability model.

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Originally Posted by jimborae

The repair situation regarding costs & repair times is the same in the UK for Tesla. I.e. hugely expensive & massive waiting times I've heard.

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Someone I know has been waiting over 6 months.

In fact, they've been waiting so long, their loaner tesla broke down, they now have a rented X4.

I thought there was a new law recently either suggested or coming into law about manufacturers having to honour repairs done by third parties if done properly without affecting the warranty? Might have been an EU thing.

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Originally Posted by Gerrard

I thought there was a new law recently either suggested or coming into law about manufacturers having to honour repairs done by third parties if done properly without affecting the warranty? Might have been an EU thing.

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Without being able to quote it, I'm sure you're right .... except perhaps about "recent". I'd have guessed at more like 15 years-ish.

However .... have repairs done at the frwnchised dealers or "authorised" repairers and it pretty much excludes arguments about whether it was done properly. Have it done at Back Street Joe's Expert Auto Repairs and you risk setting yourself up for the claim that it wasn't done properly, which you may have to prove to be false.

Personally, my "hassle avoidance" gland inclines me to authorised repairets if warrsnty is a factor.

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Originally Posted by jimborae

That's exactly my take on things as well. Seriously what are they playing at! In some states in the US it would appear that their whole repair model is illegal and so they've had to modify it a bit for those states but effectively it still reeks of monopolistic behaviour.

The repair situation regarding costs & repair times is the same in the UK for Tesla. I.e. hugely expensive & massive waiting times I've heard.

Hence why I said earlier that until this changes you wont catch me buying a Tesla. Add to that shocking build quality issues and it just completely changes the ownership/desirability model.

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They are only doing it to enforce built-in obsolescence just like buying a phone.

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Originally Posted by Saracen

Without being able to quote it, I'm sure you're right .... except perhaps about "recent". I'd have guessed at more like 15 years-ish.

However .... have repairs done at the frwnchised dealers or "authorised" repairers and it pretty much excludes arguments about whether it was done properly. Have it done at Back Street Joe's Expert Auto Repairs and you risk setting yourself up for the claim that it wasn't done properly, which you may have to prove to be false.

Personally, my "hassle avoidance" gland inclines me to authorised repairets if warrsnty is a factor.

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They were not covering safety recalls on secondhand cars,since they were not resold by authorised dealers,and the owner had to complain to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in the US,who backed them.

Plus their way of estimating the cost of repairs was to get someone to send them smartphone pictures,and not actually look at the car,where they basically bumped up the price of a few thousand dollars of repairs to nearly $20000,hence making the car an insurance write-off,most likely to get people to buy a new one.