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    AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    Principal member of AMD's technical staff has since 'corrected' his LinkedIn profile.
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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    I think it's safe to say AMD want to move away from HBM as quickly as possible.

    It's been a complete disaster for their GPU's.

    Good technology but it just wasn't ready for mainstream in the quantity needed at the price required for the home GPU market, and ultimately, not much better than the latest GDDR offerings.

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    I think it's safe to say AMD want to move away from HBM as quickly as possible.
    And yet Intel are giving it a go, and Nvidia use it in their high end server parts.

    TBH I think AMD are quite capable of shooting themselves in the foot without needing the help of HBM

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    And yet Intel are giving it a go, and Nvidia use it in their high end server parts.

    TBH I think AMD are quite capable of shooting themselves in the foot without needing the help of HBM
    I think HBM2 makes most sense in an APU - the alternative is using DDR4 system RAM, and the bandwidth limitation that entails. There just wouldn't be space on the CPU package for multiple GDDR dies.

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    Last time I briefly looked up GPU, I saw a lot of posters expecting big thing from HBM2, some even saying that they are holding back for it. No longer then case then?

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    the problem of HBM is not the supply or fabrication tech but an issue of demand, the demand is just not good enough.

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Last time I briefly looked up GPU, I saw a lot of posters expecting big thing from HBM2, some even saying that they are holding back for it. No longer then case then?
    Vega has the same die size and memory bandwidth as a 1080ti, but not the same performance. The bandwidth is there though, so on the surface the HBM2 seems to be doing its bit, but it isn't a golden ticket.

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    the problem of HBM is not the supply or fabrication tech but an issue of demand, the demand is just not good enough.
    I quite fancy a Vega 56, but can't find one at a sensible price. Sounds like price inflation through lack of supply to me. Am hoping custom cooler boards turn up soon.

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    the problem of HBM is not the supply or fabrication tech but an issue of demand, the demand is just not good enough.
    I think the demand is there it all points to yields and supply still being poor. Remember with Vega the chips supplied to AMD and board partners is combined with hbm2, so even if AMD have plenty of Vega dies they can't do anything without the hbm2 module
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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    ........Nvidia sabotaged HBM by not implementing the chips on high end GTX 10- series. Samsung developed lower bandwidth cheaper versions of HBM2 but up to date AMD,Intel or Nvidia has showed no interest.

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    Re: AMD engineer signals upcoming GPUs with GDDR6 tech

    I still say it's down to pricing due to a combination of demand and number of different production lines required currently.

    When the industry is only producing 1 or 2 types of RAM, prices are low. At the moment we have a ton of different chips, fragmenting a market that is being bogged down by mobile devices.
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