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    Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    How on earth is this even news? apple make a new computer at a much higher price than it should be?

    Chances are it won't even be that good but defended to the hilt by fan boys for being clad in aluminum and not running windows.

    I tried apple many years ago and vowed never to buy any of there products ever again until proof it was faster than a pc of the same price ....... guess I have a log wait to go yet

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

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    I tried apple many years ago and vowed never to buy any of there products ever again until proof it was faster than a pc of the same price ....... guess I have a log wait to go yet
    Depends if speed is your only criteria, in which case you may be correct in your decision.
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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubarb View Post
    How on earth is this even news? apple make a new computer at a much higher price than it should be?

    Chances are it won't even be that good but defended to the hilt by fan boys for being clad in aluminum and not running windows.

    I tried apple many years ago and vowed never to buy any of there products ever again until proof it was faster than a pc of the same price ....... guess I have a log wait to go yet
    I don't know how much the premium is on this, as it's a market I have no idea what the prices are. Is an equivalent machine (with similar spec display etc) much cheaper?

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    It’s expensive in terms of hardware, but the big advantage is that the OS is extremely well integrated with hardware, so it you have been running an app on another Mac machine, it will port across seamlessly. No worrying about whether you need different drivers for peripherals, all that is done for you. The OS is configured for that hardware configuration.

    The downside is that you loose flexibility in configuring the hardware, but for most users who want the machine to do some heavy grunt (video rendering for example) don’t want to be faffing around with it, they want something that just gets on with it, and the relatively small price premium is worth it for those users.
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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    All those aspects are upgradable
    I think configurable might be a better term.
    I'm not a big mac fan, but I will admit the hardware is really well designed and built.

    Interestingly there's a growing movement away from mac's in the music industry which seems mainly to do with the way apple keep changing connectors and people have been getting a bit annoyed with having to replace a bunch of other kit if they want to replace their mac, not because it's any better but because all the old kit can no longer be connected.
    And some "updated" software required for the newer OS versions suddenly lacking features that the older software had.

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    They also get used in the design industry because of a perception that clients 'expect' to see Macs or they take their business elsewhere.

    The sooner some of these things change, the better!
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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    All those aspects are upgradable
    I think configurable might be a better term.
    I'm not a big mac fan, but I will admit the hardware is really well designed and built.

    Interestingly there's a growing movement away from mac's in the music industry which seems mainly to do with the way apple keep changing connectors and people have been getting a bit annoyed with having to replace a bunch of other kit if they want to replace their mac, not because it's any better but because all the old kit can no longer be connected.
    And some "updated" software required for the newer OS versions suddenly lacking features that the older software had.
    Seeing this a lot, people not liking being forced to upgrade their trusted old hardware just to work with a new OS and/or computer
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    They also get used in the design industry because of a perception that clients 'expect' to see Macs or they take their business elsewhere.

    The sooner some of these things change, the better!
    Which is comical because my part of the design industry wouldn't even be able to run on a mac without running it using windows via bootcamp/parrallels lol

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    It’s expensive in terms of hardware, but the big advantage is that the OS is extremely well integrated with hardware, so it you have been running an app on another Mac machine, it will port across seamlessly. No worrying about whether you need different drivers for peripherals, all that is done for you. The OS is configured for that hardware configuration.

    The downside is that you loose flexibility in configuring the hardware, but for most users who want the machine to do some heavy grunt (video rendering for example) don’t want to be faffing around with it, they want something that just gets on with it, and the relatively small price premium is worth it for those users.
    You could probably go to any of the big system integrators and get a similar turnkey package for less money

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    It’s expensive in terms of hardware, but the big advantage is that the OS is extremely well integrated with hardware, so it you have been running an app on another Mac machine, it will port across seamlessly. No worrying about whether you need different drivers for peripherals, all that is done for you. The OS is configured for that hardware configuration.
    Until you want to use a printer, scanner even stuff that identifies as a simple USB-HID isn't seamless.

    So long as you've very limited flexibility it works. Except for when it needs to be rebooted because the wifi is going very slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Until you want to use a printer, scanner even stuff that identifies as a simple USB-HID isn't seamless.

    So long as you've very limited flexibility it works. Except for when it needs to be rebooted because the wifi is going very slow.
    The printer subsystem is CUPS which is about as universal as you can get. And if you are doing some work that requires that much grunt, the chances are you’ll be using wired Ethernet rather than Wi-Fi - not that I’ve ever had a wi-fi problem with an OSX (ie BSD unix) machine.
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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    Hardware spec-wise this is the first Apple product to ever pique my interest. And then it was once again instantly lost because it's Apple hardware, which means built-in 32-month or earlier obsolescence and enormous repair costs.

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    It’s expensive in terms of hardware, but the big advantage is that the OS is extremely well integrated with hardware, so it you have been running an app on another Mac machine, it will port across seamlessly. No worrying about whether you need different drivers for peripherals, all that is done for you. The OS is configured for that hardware configuration.

    The downside is that you loose flexibility in configuring the hardware, but for most users who want the machine to do some heavy grunt (video rendering for example) don’t want to be faffing around with it, they want something that just gets on with it, and the relatively small price premium is worth it for those users.
    We're not in 2007 anymore.

    Firstly, if you're in this market you'd be buying a preconfigured device from HP and ... well, probably just HP as the alternative. That would come pre-configured. And more powerful or cheaper than this, or both. It will also connect properly to Windows domains etc - I've had to support Macs at work and they are inconsistent in network connectiivty, windows shares, prioritising wired over WiFi networking (really, how hard is that to get working?). Heck, they still show PCs as CRTs with BSOD on the network browser - like that joke has been funny for anyone over 10 since 1995.

    Secondly. Windows 10 (and 8). You install it. It grabs all the drivers for you. And if you're using it for work, that means the Microsoft certified video drivers etc. You're not going to be running beta nVidia drivers. Windows 10 is solid. It does not crash. OSX is flakier by the day.

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    That thing is bad a$$....now you know why no one can get Vega cards....Apple got them all

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    Re: Apple iMac Pro to be released tomorrow, priced from $4,999

    see lots of apple flavored venting ... hackintosh anyone?........ oh thats right you can't be bothered to make one.........

    sighs, apple users are like when you get a knock at the door from a religion, you know they atalk crud / they know it and yet they still go on ?

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