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    Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Enhanced display, thinner, lighter, and more powerful than ever. Priced from US$999.
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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    I'm sorry, what?

    $999 in the US but £1,269 here, when did the price stop being digit for digit? That's an insane increase, even accounting for VAT, you could probably import from America and be in pocket substantially rather than just shaving a little bit off the top...

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    thinner hey? So presumably still hamstrung and throttled by the poor thermal paste, de-soldered chips and questionable cooling system? I'll believe this GORE guff when I see the test results.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Why dont they put ryzen mobile in the new laptops, they perform better.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    I find the claim that it's "improved in every conceivable way" inconceivable, considering the reduced battery size and continued use of DDR3.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    "XPS 13 2-in-1 laptop".....Maybe I'm missing something but this isn't a 2in1.

    Also the price gouging on this is a little high. And why can't they do a nice all black or all silver option....

    And as a little sidenote: Why do companies keep insisting on sticking their branding on the screen, we know which laptop we bought or are using.... that incessant need to brand the screen by dell has increased the bottom bezel too due to the screen placement and then the weird placement of the camera, something I'm sure they could have moved to the top because most people didn't like it down low...

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Pfff over a grand and pretty bang average specs. My Hp Envy 13 cost £800 and has a dedicated MX150 GPU. Okay, so CPU is not as good, but I think overall it's more balanced.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by meesmaalt View Post
    Why dont they put ryzen mobile in the new laptops, they perform better.
    Dell has had a long standing deal with Intel, going back to P4 when Athlon was kicking them up and down the street, Intel gave Dell some form of cash incentive to stick with them instead of using AMD.

    They appear to have been in bed with Intel ever since.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by meesmaalt View Post
    Why dont they put ryzen mobile in the new laptops, they perform better.
    I wouldn't entirely agree, while the performance is comparable, battery life could be better: https://hothardware.com/reviews/ryze...nalysis?page=3

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    "XPS 13 2-in-1 laptop".....Maybe I'm missing something but this isn't a 2in1.
    2in1 = laptop + tablet convertible. Previous XPSs haven't been convertible into tablets, and by the looks of the screen hinge it doesn't look like this one is either.

    It's great to continue the option of Ubuntu (for all their faults with Intel vs AMD, at least Dell do have decent Linux support) but I hope there will be some Ryzen options in the future (not necessarily in the XPS line).

    I think the mention of "FHD (1920 x 1080) 72 per cent colour gamut display" should say what that 72% is out of - I suspect it's NTSC, rather than sRGB as implied by the mention in the previous clause - which would actually make both panel options similar in gamut.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by deepblue08 View Post
    I wouldn't entirely agree, while the performance is comparable, battery life could be better: https://hothardware.com/reviews/ryze...nalysis?page=3
    In that very article, it says:

    "On battery power, even at a 100 percent brightness setting, the machine was only able to output 100 lux on our meter. Since our test methodology has always been to calibrate all laptop displays tested to this modest light output level in order to achieve a level playing field, we had to set the HP machine at 100 percent brightness to run our tests. As a result, this may not be AMD Ryzen Mobile's best foot forward, so to speak, with respect to battery life"

    Given that the screen accounts for a significant proportion (sometimes the majority) of power usage on ultra-mobile devices, I wouldn't draw general conclusions on Ryzen Mobile efficiency from that.

    Edit: they did update with another test at 50% brightness, and while it did improve the battery life, it still wasn't much. I think it's the video playback efficiency that's lacking.
    Last edited by chinf; 04-01-2018 at 07:29 PM.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by chinf View Post
    2in1 = laptop + tablet convertible. Previous XPSs haven't been convertible into tablets, and by the looks of the screen hinge it doesn't look like this one is either.
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    They do actually do an 13 xps 2in1, it's a 360 lid design... this isn't it though and that is my point.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    They do actually do an 13 xps 2in1, it's a 360 lid design... this isn't it though and that is my point.
    I see - the 2-in-1s are a separate variant to the standard XPS. The 13" XPS that's introduced for 2018 is the standard form factor, with no 2-in-1 variant listed on the web site.

    At the 15" size what has been announced is actually a 2-in-1 (XPS 15 2-in-1 (9575)) with no standard version. Perhaps this is where the confusion in this article has come from.

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    I'm sorry, what?

    $999 in the US but £1,269 here, when did the price stop being digit for digit? That's an insane increase, even accounting for VAT, you could probably import from America and be in pocket substantially rather than just shaving a little bit off the top...
    You'd ssve some, probably, but enough to justify it?

    First, is US spec the same? Does US-spec powerbrick operatd st 230-250v?

    Next, what is import duty on these? 0%, 5%, 10%, 20%? Whatever it is, add it. Thrn add shipping costs? £50? Total that up, and add 20% of that totsl in VAT. Then, add a likely "handling fee" for the customs handling. Last time I did that, years ago, it was about £25, on a lower-priced and lighter item.

    You'll end up closer to that UK price than you might like.


    Now, 6 months later, it goes wrong. Will Dell UK service it, or accept warranty claims? I don't know, but your contract is with Dell US and if you end up having go send it back, you probably just blew any savings.

    And if it goes wrong again?


    Importing expensive tech items is a bit of a minefield. I've done it on the past, but only when I was physically travelling UK-US half a dozen times a year and had US address, bank account, etc. I wouldn't risk it now.

    The price hike is galling, I know, but ...... shrug.
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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Got my dell xps 13. what a lovely machine!!!

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    Re: Dell XPS 13 "improved in every conceivable way" for 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    I'm sorry, what?

    $999 in the US but £1,269 here, when did the price stop being digit for digit? That's an insane increase, even accounting for VAT, you could probably import from America and be in pocket substantially rather than just shaving a little bit off the top...
    Well it says "priced from $999" in the US.

    According to the Dell website its priced from £1, 098 in the UK.

    I haven't compared specs or any other details as I have no interest in buying one but there is a range here

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