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    AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Last night Intel sought to deflect sole liability for the security issues. Was it correct?
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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Can you include the note about the patch negatively affecting AV products leading to crashes? Microsoft put that out just now: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4072699/important-information-regarding-the-windows-security-updates-released

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Can you include the note about the patch negatively affecting AV products leading to crashes? Microsoft put that out just now: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...dates-released
    That seems to imply they've added a check now so you can't install the patch unless your AV checks out as OK.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    That seems to imply they've added a check now so you can't install the patch unless your AV checks out as OK.
    Yes, it pretty much does, but it's good to make sure people are aware, just notified all of our AV Customers

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Sigh... this is going to get very, very messy

    Question - are the latest Intel CPUs still affected by this bug? i.e. the 8xxx and i-9 7xxx series.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumanji View Post
    Sigh... this is going to get very, very messy

    Question - are the latest Intel CPUs still affected by this bug? i.e. the 8xxx and i-9 7xxx series.

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    Yes they are.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumanji View Post
    Sigh... this is going to get very, very messy

    Question - are the latest Intel CPUs still affected by this bug? i.e. the 8xxx and i-9 7xxx series.

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    They are but the performance impact is less than on their predecessors.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Be interesting how AMD/Intel benchmarks work out after the patching.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    For those with the latest windows 10 (creators update) you're probably going to want KB4056892
    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft....px?q=KB4056892

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Look at it this way guys. Intel will have to sell the new chips and chipset motherboards at a very low price. Good times ahead!

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Intel are airily dismissing performance hit as a trifle, but in recent years new products from them have boasted minimal improvements over 3 yo predecessors.

    Anything remotely resembling a 30% hit is a giant step back.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    A reddit user mentioned how this has probably been known, used, and abused by the intelligence community for years. It's why it went unpatched and unannounced; it's an absolute goldmine of an opportunity to take action against an enemy state. And it makes sense too, there's no way Intel didn't know about this from the get-go.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    A reddit user mentioned how this has probably been known, used, and abused by the intelligence community for years. It's why it went unpatched and unannounced; it's an absolute goldmine of an opportunity to take action against an enemy state. And it makes sense too, there's no way Intel didn't know about this from the get-go.
    If these vulnerabilities were being routinely exploited by intelligence agencies I would have expected some of the code/documents wikileaks published to point in that direction...

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Do we have a list of compatible AV ?
    Whilst I appreciate that they have built in a checker, I don't want to run the risk of killing my system...
    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Going off-topic, but from the MS link in the article: "Microsoft recommends all customers protect their devices by running a supported anti-virus program". I thought they'd stopped recommending that recently with w10, and claiming defender was enough?

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    Re: AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Jon View Post
    ... I thought they'd stopped recommending that recently with w10, and claiming defender was enough?
    Defender *is* a supported anti-virus program, but it's not the only supported anti-virus program. If you run a 3rd party anti-virus, Defender disables itself: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-compatibility
    Last edited by scaryjim; 05-01-2018 at 11:06 AM. Reason: typo

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