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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    which is a double edged sword
    AGH!!!!!
    I hate that phrase... Double-edged blades exist for two reasons - Either it thrusts better and is more effective, and/or it gives a second cutting edge for when the first one gets too notched from combat.
    Either way, it's meant to reflect something of considerable benefit, with teh only possible downside being that it takes twice as long to sharpen!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    This is the kind of product which, despite actually not being all that useful in reality, could have been an impulse buy for thousands of nerds who just think its cool. Instead... I predict a flop.
    It still is cool, in concept at least. I'd be FAR more likely to start using mobile office apps on this, which is what my original Psion was so often used for.

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    AGH!!!!!
    I hate that phrase... Double-edged blades exist for two reasons - Either it thrusts better and is more effective, and/or it gives a second cutting edge for when the first one gets too notched from combat.
    Either way, it's meant to reflect something of considerable benefit, with teh only possible downside being that it takes twice as long to sharpen!!
    Well you are correct in a literal sense, but the expression is thought to be of Arabic origin, where the blade was typically a scimitar or slashing weapon, wielded from side to side, so if you had an enemy on one side, and a friend on the other, you could inflict equal damage to both - a positive and negative consequence, which is how the phrase is used today. But your reasoning is entirely correct for long straight bladed weapons.
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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Well you are correct in a literal sense, but the expression is thought to be of Arabic origin, where the blade was typically a scimitar or slashing weapon, wielded from side to side, so if you had an enemy on one side, and a friend on the other, you could inflict equal damage to both - a positive and negative consequence, which is how the phrase is used today. But your reasoning is entirely correct for long straight bladed weapons.
    Well at least I learned something

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    PDA's again? innovation award? Is this going to be the theme for 2018?

    "2160x1080 ultra-wide" Nope...

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    the expression is thought to be of Arabic origin, where the blade was typically a scimitar or slashing weapon, wielded from side to side
    Not very well thought, though... If they thought about how the sword is used, swung a sword themselves or knew anything about body mechanics, they'd realise that only one edge would cut at any time, unless the friend is running behind it VERY fast!
    Even a 180º curve on an insane two-edged scimitar would still only cut the aforementioned friend with one edge. It'd take someone who really doesn't know what they're doing to actually cut both ways even with a double-edged sword!

    The Arabic term people often cite is just a single term translated, without giving a complete phrase or context to define use or origin.
    However, there is also Al Zulfiqar, the sword given to Ali ibn Abi Talib by the prohet Mohammed, very often described as a scissor-like double bladed sword, with teh twin points being used to target an enemy's eyes... and the exact same Arabic phrase is also used to describe a two-pronged attack.

    The term also appears in quotes misattributed to Caesar, in whose era most swords were double edged anyway and thus a redundant point to state. Even the Caesarian quote(s) cited seem more regarded as a plagiarism of Shakespeare's play.
    But even then, as fashions changed and people began favouring things like Backswords, there were proponents of double-edged blades writing whole treatises espousing the historically proven superiority and benefits of double-edged blades...

    Sounds like just another 'Beat your wife with the Rule of Thumb' origin tale, to be honest...

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    That’s the problem with researching the origins of these sayings - conflicting stories.

    Bit of a double edge sword really.... oh wait a minute....
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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    I had a Psion Revo+ and would have loved something similar to that... ten years ago :-/

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    That’s the problem with researching the origins of these sayings - conflicting stories.
    Bit of a double edge sword really.... oh wait a minute....
    *slap*

    Nah, it's mainly because people don't research them, hence the Rule of Thumb one.

    Quote Originally Posted by daddacool View Post
    I had a Psion Revo+ and would have loved something similar to that... ten years ago :-/
    But without the sealed battery that compromises the memory...!!

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Can I just check I've got this right?

    A group of former Psion employees have created an updated Psion and stuck Android on it .... and it's won an innovation award?!
    Pretty much the same thing Apple does to get theirs every year. Take someone else's idea, make a giant banner that says "We did it first!" and keep repeating that lie over and over again until their bovine-like fan base believes it and they win an award. Apple hasn't actually innovated anything in years and years and years. Just like these guys; take old design, throw away guts, install guts of a smartphone and call it innovative.
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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    The innovation is bringing the idea to market in a new way. In this case the original idea has been updated to appeal (in theory) to the next generation. I had a Psion series three, but in reality, my iPad does all that my Psion did.

    Apple’s strength is (or was) taking concepts or niche technology to the mass market, but I’d agree there hasn’t been a lot of real innovation in their product line recently, more a set of incremental ‘improvements’. But that is pretty true for the PC/smartphone sector as a whole, regardless of the platform.
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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    I think the issue here is that most people have a smartphone or tablet. With the addition of a bluetooth beyboard and appropriate case a tablet becomes a very functional laptop very quickly. The same can be done wth a mobile phone although it's not quite as graceful as this product. Given most people would have 4G and wifi on their phones along with all their documents, it does render this thing a bit useless. Just get a case that allows you to prop the phone up and a bluetooth keyboard. That said, I'm not sure if you'll be able to get a tiny keyboard that's as good as the one on here.

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I think the issue here is that most people have a smartphone or tablet. With the addition of a bluetooth beyboard and appropriate case a tablet becomes a very functional laptop very quickly.
    The problem is in getting those add-ons and the additional fuss of increased power draw, etc etc.
    A single unit designed to to this from the beginning should be the better option. Certainly I find the form factor much easier to use in the hand as well as on the desk, whereas the cases are usually all floppy and only good for desk use.

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    The problem is in getting those add-ons and the additional fuss of increased power draw, etc etc.
    A single unit designed to to this from the beginning should be the better option. Certainly I find the form factor much easier to use in the hand as well as on the desk, whereas the cases are usually all floppy and only good for desk use.
    Oh yeh, agree this is more graceful solution but equally it's a lot of money when you already have something that does most of it and for the convenience of a more useful form factor. To me that convenience is countered by having to have files on two separate devices which do similar jobs. Yeh you can use cloud services and so on but for reliability and speed, especially on the move, nothing beats local storage.

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    Re: Planet Computers Gemini PDA wins CES Innovation Award

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    it's a lot of money when you already have something that does most of it
    It's not about what it does, it's about how it does it... If it were just about doing something, we'd all just go buy Apple devices!!

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