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    Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Meanwhile many graphics cards are selling for more than double their MSRP.
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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    So Nvidia's answer is to ask retailers to play nice. Well that's going to work isn't it.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    So Nvidia's answer is to ask retailers to play nice. Well that's going to work isn't it.
    Nvidia: Be nice to gamers

    *Customers comes to retailer*

    Customer: I want to buy 100 GPUs with minor break pricing

    Retailer: KACHING!

    It's like asking a thirsty person to drink less water.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    If Nvidia upped production to meet the demand...

    Never know, output keeping up with demand just might help.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Yeah right Nvidia, not when the retailers can milk the shortage. They don't care who buys it as long at they have the momney in the till.

    The Msi 1080ti was listed as £750 over a month ago, and that was high enough as it is.

    Now, same card £899 because it's "in stock" whilst several retailers have it on back order for £720.

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-x-trio-11gb-gddr5x-vr-ready-graphics-card-3584-core-1544mhz-gpu-1657m

    Easy to say it's for gamers when the retailers are the criminals themselves.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    If Nvidia upped production to meet the demand...

    Never know, output keeping up with demand just might help.
    Not sure output can. Crypto currencies are like a electricity eating cancer that make GPUs look like money printing machines. If more money printing machines are released on the market, what would stop people from buying them as well? If GPU production went up a magnitude I doubt it would help gamers, but it might lead to rolling blackouts from electricity used.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Wow, I'm actually surprised and impressed that Nvidia would take this stance.

    I've got a little bit more respect for them now. I don't think this will change too much though.

    It's the idea that is what's impressing me.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    If Nvidia upped production to meet the demand...

    Never know, output keeping up with demand just might help.
    Neither they or AMD want to do that as if the value of cryptocurrency collapses tomorrow they'd be left with warehouses full of cards gathering dust.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    This is basically why I bought my 1060 6GB when I did rather than waiting a few more months like I was planning.

    I could already see that the prices were going to go up when I bought over a year ago and so I bought earlier than planned but in all honesty I wasn't expecting the prices to get this stupid.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Neither they or AMD want to do that as if the value of cryptocurrency collapses tomorrow they'd be left with warehouses full of cards gathering dust.
    Surely gamers would now buy them, rather than going for the now-useless ragged-to-heck second-hand ex-mining cards... partly because we wouldn't pay in BitCoin anyways!

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Surely gamers would now buy them, rather than going for the now-useless ragged-to-heck second-hand ex-mining cards... partly because we wouldn't pay in BitCoin anyways!
    I don't have numbers but i imagine it would take a long time for gamers to buy up all the excess stock if manufactures up'ed production and a collapse in cryptocurrency lead to miners not buying cards anymore. I was listening to the PCPer mailbag from last week and Ryan mentioned how he's heard of more than one instance of 737 cargo planes packed with graphics cards being shipped direct from Taiwan to China so we're talking about thousands of cards.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    When the markets are showing you can sell an 18 month old electronic product and still net a profit from what you originally paid, you know things are really, really bad.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    It's probably why I'd buy a GPU direct from manufacturer now, instead of from a retailer. It's also something I'd bear in mind in the future when making purchases, how the retailer reacts now defines my relationship with them in the future.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    I was seriously debating a 1070 given it's just had a mid cycle refresh in the Ti and they might be looking to begin a slowdown in production to clear excess stock.

    It went up £40 in a week. That was the lowest priced one. And there is barely any difference between a 1070 and a Ti (or there wasn't when I looked, I stopped looking and went back to my GTX 780 which I then tried to overclock. Which went badly - I've never had such a small overclock lead to almost immediate crashing on the desktop before, quite impressive and also very effective in disuading any more adventurous lifespan prolonging overclocking escapades).

    Vega was supposed to be the card to bring real competition to the market. I can only hope that this cryptocurrency demand does a few things:

    1) fills the boots of AMD so as their next card can be really something
    2) fills the boots of NVidia so their next card can be really something
    3) gives me more points to make to seem less drunj and more clevermerer
    4) gives the companies the reason d'etre required for proper dedicated mining cards which are actually good for mining and rubbish / not as good for gaming as the GPUs they're based upon. This would help steady the market because in the long run this is simply going to push more gamers towards consoles.
    5) means the companies involved also put some cash away becuase, as July's blip showed, crypto could easily crash and there's a very low threshold for people selling off lots of quality (although hard worked) GPUs cheap.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    I think the only thing that will help is if Russia, China, Merkel and Macron go ahead and regulate the crypto market like they say they are considering.

    The reality is prices will stay high until the crypto market changes.

    Unless they come up with some solution such as making cheaper mining specific cards en masse but I can't see that as they won't massively up production, as has been said, if the crypto crashes then they'd be left with stock they can't shift.
    Grab that. Get that. Check it out. Bring that here. Grab anything useful. Take anything good.

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    Re: Nvidia encourages retailers to look after gamers

    if you know someone that mines ... punch them! ... it's simple (right in the face too )

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