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These Skylake-server generation SoCs yield up to 18 cores and 36 threads.
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These Skylake-server generation SoCs yield up to 18 cores and 36 threads.
Free Bugs and Exploits included?
As above...wonders if these still have exploits
As above and above this was my first thought. I suspect these would have been too far down R&D to get hardware mitigations in place. And I also suspect the press release would have been all over it. Lack of mentioning means they don't want people to think about it. Only the desperate will buy these. Those with sense will buy AMD or wait for fixed chips.
Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft buy these by the million. Intel produce custom versions for all the big cloud vendors. AMD have nothing in this space. [EDIT] - but I would love AMD too, as i'd buy one for my home server. Probably going for an Atom C3558 board next as these are too power hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
Modern chips don't get hit that hard, so it is unlikely to be an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
Desktop chips, don't get hit too hard. Pretty sure I've read that it's servers and the likes that are hit hardest.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
AM4 for me because I can do transcoding etc. and they have a decent gfx chip with opencl accelerationQuote:
Originally Posted by gagaga
It doesn't depend on the CPU, it depends on the nature of the workload.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSG501
Data centre margins are also a lot finer, so if you have a room full of servers going near to full capacity, with the fixes in place to protect from the exploits and the performance hit, you now need an additional few racks to process the same throughput.
Just an answer to a previous post.
Emm,what:
https://videocardz.com/74939/first-m...series-spotted
https://www.techpowerup.com/241332/i...ar-in-the-wild
Ryzen is an SOC,so embedded versions are following.
Also MS and Baidu are launch customers for AMD Epyc?
So not sure how AMD is not competing with Intel?
AMD are junkQuote:
Originally Posted by gagagaGoogle, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft buy these by the million. Intel produce custom versions for all the big cloud vendors. AMD have nothing in this space. [EDIT] - but I would love AMD too, as i'd buy one for my home server. Probably going for an Atom C3558 board next as these are too power hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
processors will be protected by Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities via system software updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dcandy
THAT IS THE SAME FOR ALL AMD AND ALL ARM ARCHITECTURE. Hardware level wont arrive for many many months from all manufactures
Nothing to do with the chips, it's all do with the workloads (the desktop and server chips are pretty much silicon identical when you're talking about the same core configurations). And when we say "hit hard", the one cloud impact I've seen was a server shifting from 4% utilisation to 8% utilisation. "Hit hard" is a funny phrase. Outside of HPC and benchmarking a lot of server workloads don't actually hammer the CPU that hard. The issue is with potential increases in latency and access times for IO and stuff like that. I suspect it's going to be VERY hard to effectively quantise the performance impact of Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSG501
Besides, in silicon terms the newer architectures are impacted far less by the software mitigations for Spectre & Meltdown. As these are Skylake-architecture chips, they will be among the least impacted.
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To be that guy - while this is true of Spectre, it's not true of Meltdown. Intel is the only manufacturer to be affected by that one...Quote:
Originally Posted by ETR316