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    Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    These Skylake-server generation SoCs yield up to 18 cores and 36 threads.
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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Free Bugs and Exploits included?

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    As above...wonders if these still have exploits
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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    As above and above this was my first thought. I suspect these would have been too far down R&D to get hardware mitigations in place. And I also suspect the press release would have been all over it. Lack of mentioning means they don't want people to think about it. Only the desperate will buy these. Those with sense will buy AMD or wait for fixed chips.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    As above and above this was my first thought. I suspect these would have been too far down R&D to get hardware mitigations in place. And I also suspect the press release would have been all over it. Lack of mentioning means they don't want people to think about it. Only the desperate will buy these. Those with sense will buy AMD or wait for fixed chips.
    Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft buy these by the million. Intel produce custom versions for all the big cloud vendors. AMD have nothing in this space. [EDIT] - but I would love AMD too, as i'd buy one for my home server. Probably going for an Atom C3558 board next as these are too power hungry.
    Last edited by gagaga; 08-02-2018 at 01:36 PM.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    As above and above this was my first thought. I suspect these would have been too far down R&D to get hardware mitigations in place. And I also suspect the press release would have been all over it. Lack of mentioning means they don't want people to think about it. Only the desperate will buy these. Those with sense will buy AMD or wait for fixed chips.
    Modern chips don't get hit that hard, so it is unlikely to be an issue.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Modern chips don't get hit that hard, so it is unlikely to be an issue.
    Desktop chips, don't get hit too hard. Pretty sure I've read that it's servers and the likes that are hit hardest.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by gagaga View Post
    Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft buy these by the million. Intel produce custom versions for all the big cloud vendors. AMD have nothing in this space. [EDIT] - but I would love AMD too, as i'd buy one for my home server. Probably going for an Atom C3558 board next as these are too power hungry.
    AM4 for me because I can do transcoding etc. and they have a decent gfx chip with opencl acceleration
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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Desktop chips, don't get hit too hard. Pretty sure I've read that it's servers and the likes that are hit hardest.
    It doesn't depend on the CPU, it depends on the nature of the workload.
    Data centre margins are also a lot finer, so if you have a room full of servers going near to full capacity, with the fixes in place to protect from the exploits and the performance hit, you now need an additional few racks to process the same throughput.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Just an answer to a previous post.

    Emm,what:

    https://videocardz.com/74939/first-m...series-spotted

    https://www.techpowerup.com/241332/i...ar-in-the-wild

    Ryzen is an SOC,so embedded versions are following.

    Also MS and Baidu are launch customers for AMD Epyc?

    So not sure how AMD is not competing with Intel?
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 09-02-2018 at 12:13 PM.

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by gagaga View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    As above and above this was my first thought. I suspect these would have been too far down R&D to get hardware mitigations in place. And I also suspect the press release would have been all over it. Lack of mentioning means they don't want people to think about it. Only the desperate will buy these. Those with sense will buy AMD or wait for fixed chips.
    Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft buy these by the million. Intel produce custom versions for all the big cloud vendors. AMD have nothing in this space. [EDIT] - but I would love AMD too, as i'd buy one for my home server. Probably going for an Atom C3558 board next as these are too power hungry.
    AMD are junk

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    As above...wonders if these still have exploits
    processors will be protected by Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities via system software updates.

    THAT IS THE SAME FOR ALL AMD AND ALL ARM ARCHITECTURE. Hardware level wont arrive for many many months from all manufactures

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    Re: Intel launches Xeon D-2100 processor family

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Desktop chips, don't get hit too hard. Pretty sure I've read that it's servers and the likes that are hit hardest.
    Nothing to do with the chips, it's all do with the workloads (the desktop and server chips are pretty much silicon identical when you're talking about the same core configurations). And when we say "hit hard", the one cloud impact I've seen was a server shifting from 4% utilisation to 8% utilisation. "Hit hard" is a funny phrase. Outside of HPC and benchmarking a lot of server workloads don't actually hammer the CPU that hard. The issue is with potential increases in latency and access times for IO and stuff like that. I suspect it's going to be VERY hard to effectively quantise the performance impact of Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities.

    Besides, in silicon terms the newer architectures are impacted far less by the software mitigations for Spectre & Meltdown. As these are Skylake-architecture chips, they will be among the least impacted.

    EDIT:

    Quote Originally Posted by ETR316 View Post
    ... THAT IS THE SAME FOR ALL AMD AND ALL ARM ARCHITECTURE. ...
    To be that guy - while this is true of Spectre, it's not true of Meltdown. Intel is the only manufacturer to be affected by that one...

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