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Waiting with bated breath for the microcode update for my Ivy Bridge Xeon E3. And with even more bated breath for a firmware update with said microcode update from ASUS.
So basically one generation of cores.
I'm now waiting with baited breath to see if I actually get an update for my z97 motherboard and it's i7 4790k (broadwell)...which had it's last bios update on the 20th of July 2016...
Not that I really care too much, pretty sure I don't have any major concerns over meltdown/spectre affecting me, unless I'm a complete idiot and install something stupid, but still...
Apparently in beta according to the PDF. Highly doubt the motherboard manufacturers will bother releasing the microcode in a new bios for older systems though. Be interesting to see if this does translate into an industry wide effort to resolve the problems, especially for older platforms.Quote:
Originally Posted by azrael-
Hm, curiously I just went looking for a BIOS update for my laptop and it's had a new one since 9th Feb... that's almost 2 weeks ago! Wonder if there's a staged rollout of mitigations....
Luckily my PC is just young enough to get it :)
I think its a worthy mention, so far, Dell is really on the ball as far as OEM's go. They seem to be in the lead with pushing out the proper stable code faster than others.
Doubt i'll see one for my Z77.
So this bios update is good to go, like the last one was, till it wasn't. Let's hope they've learned from that.
So do we know does this also combat MeltdownPrime and SpectrePrime and will these also be a non-issue when their architecture is finally redesigned to cater for Meltdown and Spectre?
Im also still on Z77 (two systems) probably going to merge them into a single threadripper later this year and ditch them both. If it wasnt for the fact I need a new laptop now, and there isny any compelling AMD models out right now, I would have gone with AMD for portable as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
Looks like Ryzen laptops are starting to show up on manufacturer sites at least, Asus have the ROG Strix GL702ZC for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biscuit
Edit: Actually that's up on ebuyer and Scan. Pricey end of the scale but it does have a 580 in it too.
I'd say its pretty reasonable all things considered. Spec up all the components seperately including monitor and keyboard...Quote:
Originally Posted by adidan
Problem is that its chunky and power hungry (for a laptop).
I dont need full Ryzen desktop power on the go, I need portability, battery life, decent screen, reasonable CPU power but plenty of RAM. I went for Lenovo T480s with 16GB RAM and i7 8550 with the 1440p screen.
There's a couple of thinkpads with bristol ridge, which bodes well for the possibility of future thinkpads with ryzen APUs (since they ought to be pin compatible). Not announced yet though, of course (you'd think they'd be able to sell the lack of intel IME as a good thing, given thinkpad target market)
With desktop ryzen, it isn't really a laptop anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by adidan
https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/201...a738969cb0.png
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/laptop...702zc/?page=10
Very true about that, I probably would have impulse bought the 12.5" FHD one if it had a 2700u with 16GB RAM option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xlucine
AMD does have its own IME equivalent called PSP so it's not really a selling point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xlucine
Well, I *was* kind of sarcastic in my earlier comment, since I too believe manufacturers won't bother. HOWEVER, I could potentially see a flood of lawsuits coming if manufacturers deliberately won't distribute fixes for potentially high risk vulnerabilities when those fixes are available. Even more so for a professional platform like mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iota
Aye it is a bit of a beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biscuit
That is very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xlucine
The way things are it may soon be the cheapest way to buy a gpu :)
My understanding is that PSP is the lesser of two evils, they're both bad but from what i can tell PSP doesn't include network or file system code, it does contain an IO stub that could be used to access the network and file system but it seems AMD currently don't use it whereas ME includes modules specifically for accessing the network and file system.Quote:
Originally Posted by spacein_vader
If the microcode is stable and becomes available for older CPUs as well as the more recent ones, it'll be very interesting from a purely consumer point of view to see who supports their older platforms. Any that simply avoid their responsibilities of releasing updated bios for older motherboards will likely damage their reputation for those of us who will watch with some interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by azrael-
I'd certainly be wary of touching a manufacturer board or hardware again if they decide to not release updated bios for older systems, if that microcode becomes available to them.
Same here - spend a fortune on Z97 and Broadwell i5 5675C and still no sign of a fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSG501
Perhaps should have stayed with AMD - it was only the lack of a suitable mobo...
Out of curiosity, do any manufacturers have updates out for Z97 motherboards? Gigabyte haven't touched my board since 2015, so I'm looking for another manufacturer to fanboy
Common misconception. The right kind of code in a browser script could exploit this for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSG501
For other vulnerabilities, around 30% of ransomware gets in through browsers. Presumably through infected ad networks.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/28/new_intel_meltdown_spectre_microcode_releases_haswell_broadwell/
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