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    JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    However year-on-year total GPU shipments dropped nearly 5 per cent during 2017.
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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    For the most people on board graphics are good enough. And for those that game the high prices put many off!
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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    For the most people on board graphics are good enough. And for those that game the high prices put many off!
    Very true, I think the last time I bought an external graphics card was about 12 years ago - and that was only about £35.
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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    If you bought a Ryzen CPU you needed a dGPU.

    In fact, the JPR figures show that integrated graphics sales - particularly on desktop - have fallen year-on-year, while dGPU sales have leaped almost 10%. Indeed, year on year it's only the desktop dGPU sales that have increased.

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    More of us might upgrade graphics, memory and such if the price stopped skyrocketing. I want a higher end card, but refuse to pay the prices being asked. Because of the Cdn dollar being weak, it makes the problem even nastier.
    From what I have been reading, 2018 looks to be much the same with Nvidia saying hopefully better by year end ... I will make due for now

    AMD new apu is not going to help add in board sales. That little inxpensive chip is going to be 'good enough' for a large market especially laptops / ultrathins

    AMD/Nvidia can hopefully find some cost reductions with the coming die shrinks, and hopefully the massive memory shortage can do the same

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    So $776M spent on 3M graphics cards, that's an average of $259.

    If that was RRP then it would make sense as that is an average of an RX580, but it has been a long time since I saw graphics cards at RRP. How out of date is this data???

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    I still feel all warm and fuzzy when I see my £208.50 RX580 Nitro+ 8GB in my PC, knowing I got it at a decent price and more importantly it didn't go to a miner is great. I may have one of the only ones used fort gaming.

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    So $776M spent on 3M graphics cards, that's an average of $259.

    If that was RRP then it would make sense as that is an average of an RX580, but it has been a long time since I saw graphics cards at RRP. How out of date is this data???
    It may point to heavier buying of lower tier cards, considering the grotesque prices being asked for top-tier cards. Despite what the tech press would have you believe.

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmaheid View Post
    It may point to heavier buying of lower tier cards, considering the grotesque prices being asked for top-tier cards. Despite what the tech press would have you believe.
    AIUI you need 4GB of decent vram to mine, not sure how many low end cards would work (I'm not that well informed with the market and too lazy to look right now )

    Edit: OK I cracked. An RX560 can be had with 4GB of GDDR5 for £170, 1050ti for £180, so a rack full of them could work. If a Vega 56 is £800, then you get four lower end graphics cards for the same money. Four RX560 gets you 4096 shaders in total.
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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    AIUI you need 4GB of decent vram to mine, not sure how many low end cards would work (I'm not that well informed with the market and too lazy to look right now )
    Makes sense why my 2 290xs sold for so much.

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    AIUI you need 4GB of decent vram to mine, not sure how many low end cards would work ...
    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-...i-dvi-d-dl?v=c

    sub £100, 4GB of 7Gbps GDDR5.

    Also iirc a number of cards this year launched at RRP and the price then went up rather than down - so perhaps the miners bought more of that early launch-price stock...

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    RX550 is shader light for the miners though with "only" 512. Yes you need 2gb for mining ETH last time I looked but to make it worthwhile I'm pretty sure they would be looking at RX570's and 580's more rather than a 4 gig RX550. But hey, the data is just an average, and I'm sure most sales are of sub £200 graphics cards anyway to make sure that 1080p gaming is alright
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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Yes you need 2gb for mining ETH last time I looked but to make it worthwhile I'm pretty sure they would be looking at RX570's and 580's more rather than a 4 gig RX550. But hey, the data is just an average, and I'm sure most sales are of sub £200 graphics cards anyway to make sure that 1080p gaming is alright
    This was what I was remembering: https://wccftech.com/nvidias-geforce...g-file-update/

    So 3GB on Windows is marginal for ETH, presumably the other altcoins will outgrow these cards as well?

    But note that the average I quoted was for cards sold to miners. No idea how they calculated that though.

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Cheers Dances - pretty up to date. As I have only 1 gig cards here as I only game very lightly and the missus only plays Sonic on Retroarch I can't even play with mining. I knew the DAG was getting to at least 2gig in size, just to make sure you can't do ASIC mining but as it's 2.33 gig now then 4 gig is pretty much essential, and on AMD cards necessary as they only do even sized memory configs. I have toyed with the Bitcoin Miner app in the Windows store but to be fair it's pretty rubbish with my old 5850 card inmy work pc - and that's only in there for OpenCL acceleration
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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Cheers Dances - pretty up to date. As I have only 1 gig cards here as I only game very lightly and the missus only plays Sonic on Retroarch I can't even play with mining. I knew the DAG was getting to at least 2gig in size, just to make sure you can't do ASIC mining but as it's 2.33 gig now then 4 gig is pretty much essential, and on AMD cards necessary as they only do even sized memory configs. I have toyed with the Bitcoin Miner app in the Windows store but to be fair it's pretty rubbish with my old 5850 card inmy work pc - and that's only in there for OpenCL acceleration
    I remember during the first Bitcoin rush,selling my HD5850 for so much I essentially got a free GTX660 2GB in return!!

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    Re: JPR: crypto-miners bought 3 million graphics cards last year

    Perfectly adequate for what I do "work" wise alongside a Xeon X5645 6-core 12 thread chip and 24 gig of ram
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